[Kaktusdude]

The limit is the total count of songs you have in your library, regardless of source.

 

The easiest way to get more space on PS3 without a hassle is to get a copy of both regions. They coexist and your PS3 can boot both and each region uses their own game folders.

 

Another way is to rename multiple folders in the HMX0756 folder and name the one you want to play “songs”, any other folder will not be loaded by the game.

 

Thanks for your quick response. I think I am following you on the options you suggest. Any comment about manipulating dta files for original and DLC? I ask because there is a chunk of stuff we never play and would never miss. I could probably gain a few hundred spots back that way which would hold me for a while.

[Alternity]

There’s nothing really hard about manipulating those. Just one thing to know: The mid.edat files are encrypted to use that specific HMX/UGC folder so your DLC will only work in the folder you found them, so I suggest backing up the whole HMX/UGC folders instead of just the files inside it so that you don’t forget later in which folder the songs works.

Renaming the folders to something like HMXxxxx_temp or something would also work, since the game would skip those, or better yet, make a temp folder and put all those HMX/UGC folders in there and take them out whenever you wanna play those.

[Kaktusdude]

So basically I ended up making some tough calls to clean up space. I identified some folders associated to some less than desirable songs (sorry Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld – sacrilege I know…) and copied them to a thumb drive. Then I deleted the folders off of the PS3 which freed up some song count with apparently no negative impact.

 

Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.

[Spike1958]

First off, thanks to everyone on this site and elsewhere who have taken the time to create customs and the guys over at PSX-Place for all their work.

I am excited to be able to play some of my favorite songs that never made it to RB.

 

Anyway, my PS3 was already at 4.85. I tried to downgrade it to 4.84 prior to going to the HFW version, but that did not work. But when I checked PSX, there was a version of HFW 4.85 available, so I used that. It upgraded fine, no problem with that. I wanted to try out RB3 and RBTB to make sure they still worked prior to going further and putting HEN on.

Both games played fine, except none of the DLC would work. Beatles just stayed on the ‘loading’ screen while RB3 said ‘song not found, skipping’.

I put HEN on, but that made no difference. I then reloaded HFW4.85 and that was good. This time I logged onto PSN using the extra id I had created and activated the PS3. I then tried RB3, but same issue. I logged off PSN and logged into the PS3 using the login that the games were loaded and played under initially. Same issue. I have not logged on to PSN with this ID in case it gets banned(I don’t know if that happens with this HFW) as that is my primary PSN I use on my PS4.

 

So do I have to redownload all the DLC I had? Will that fix the issue? Can I do that without logging in to PSN? If this is not fixable, can I just swap back my old HDD whenever I want to play The Beatles? I don’t need the dlc on RB3 as it is all over on my PS4.

 

thanks very much

[Alternity]

I’m not sure about the HDD swapping, you can try it if you have a spare laptop HDD/SSD. Though even before trying that I’d ask in PS3 modding forums, the PS3 is very protected and it could generate different keys every time you swap HDD or something and that would make the other HDD not useable without a format if that’s the case, so defenetly do some reading on the subject.

As far as I understand with HEN/HAN, when it’s activated you loose access to your legit DLC, but you should get access back when you disable it (i.e. reboot your console), so I’m not sure what’s going on there, but that’s probably something you want to address to an actual PS3 modding forums.

In theory, if you use type 3 encryption when converting Xbox CON files to PS3 format, you shouldn’t even need to activate HAN/HEN as this will produce a “free” edat file, eliminating the need to use rap files and whatnot, and even HAN/HEN, all you need is the initial modding of the console really, as far as I understand (I have never used the HAN/HEN method myself, I’m simply going off what people told me).

[Spike1958]

Thanks. I guess I finally held the chicken in the proper hand, because I finally got HEN to load.

So I installed one of the file managers and started looking at the PS3 file structure. game/BLUS30463/USDIR/ structure was there, but there were a whole bunch of HMX#### folders, including HMX0756/songs, which we were supposed to have to create. This file had a songs.dta file and a bunch of sub folders.

 

So do we have to add the customs into this folder? What happens to the dta file? If I overwrite it, it will probably only point to the new song folder I copied. And while I d/l a bunch of songs, when the CON Tool did its thing, it created seperate folders for each song, along with 1 dta for each song.

I guess there is an option I missed with the tool to have them all plopped into the same folder and create one big dta?

 

thanks again

[Spike1958]

Ahh, I see now the option to merge them all. now just to figure out what to do about the existing songs in the 0756 folder

[Spike1958]

Thanks in advance again.

I saw the help note on the CON TOOL about copying over the dta file from the PS3 and merging it with the customs.

However, the Merge Songs and Manage PAck DTA file options are both greyed out.

I guess I will d/l the CON Tools pkg again and see if that helps

thanks

[Spike1958]

OK, searching for the problem led me to earlier in this thread. I guess you have to have a dta file in the merged songs folder to start with. So we will try that.

 

thanks for the bother

[Alternity]

Yes, if you take that dta file and merge it with your custom songs you will keep all songs. Make sure to keep a backup of the original in case something happens. Call it songs.dta.old or something and leave it in your HMX0756 folder.

[Shroud]

In theory, if you use type 3 encryption when converting Xbox CON files to PS3 format, you shouldn’t even need to activate HAN/HEN as this will produce a “free” edat file, eliminating the need to use rap files and whatnot, and even HAN/HEN, all you need is the initial modding of the console really

Alternity is right, definitely use Type3 encryption in C3 CON Tools when converting customs to PS3. You won’t need to activate HEN at all when playing RB3 and your DLC will still work together with customs.

 

The only time I need to enable HEN is when I want to copy more customs to the PS3, because I need a file manager for that and they are all homebrew.

[Spike1958]

Hello again. OK, so I got the custom songs working on my PS3 phatboy, except my previous DLC was not showing up. However the concept that it worked was proven, good enough for me. I only use my PS3 for Gran Tourismo and RBTB. All the RB3 songs plus all my DLC, Greenday, Lego, RB1, RB2 are available under my RB4 system on my PS4. I really don’t want to loose being able to play as The Beatles, so I put my old HDD back into phatty, started it up, happy as a clam, no issues, all DLC there.

 

 

So I went out and got another PS3 slimjim, loaded it up, restored from my previous backup from phatty. It did not entirely like that, but RB3 worked, I went online and it updated it to 1.05. So I put HFW4.85 on, no issue. Loaded HEN, installed the packages for one of the file managers, recreated my customs as I found some other ones to play. Copied them all over. RB3 plays, but no customs. Now I did have to create the HMX0756/SONGS directory as it was not there. This copy of RB3 does not have the Free pack. So after some searching, I installed PSNpatch and the RAP file from the con tools dir. That went ok, reloaded the customs, but still nothing shows up. How do I know that the RAP install worked? IS there any other work around. I checked the RB Music store and it is no longer available. Can I copy over whatever files I might need directly from the backup I made on the other system?

 

thanks in advance again

[Alternity]

Songs not showing up has to do with the location of the dta file. The dta file could be in the folder alone and they would show up in the list, they wouldn’t load obviously though. So yeah, I’d triple check to make sure everything is at the right location.

[Shroud]

I second the latest suggestion: double check the location of songs.dta and the spelling of files and folders (not sure if capitalization matters, but better stick with the guide).

 

Also double check the content of songs.dta in case you have been copying the wrong one or an empty one. To my knowledge, if songs.dta has a format error somewhere, all customs beyond the error won’t load, so check you don’t have an error already in the first.

 

By the way, I don’t have the 20-songs free pack either, but I never had to use PSNpatch or install RAP when using HEN.

[Spike1958]

OK, I will double check about caps. I created an empty songs.dta file and had con tools create all the entries from the conversion and then a merge.

Good to know about not needing the free pack.

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