[Cygnus]

I may have just been hearing things. When I get a chance ill run through it again. It may be fine. lol

 

In all fairness that part was fairly difficult to chart properly because it almost seems that the snare is following the vocals when it’s actually following them with an offset.

[Cygnus]

Just played the guitar chart. Fun stuff! I didn’t see anything wrong with it. It’s a more straightforward guitar part than I had imagined in my head just listening to the song.

 

Ill play it on Pro Drums tomorrow.

 

EDIT: Played pro drums. I found that the part after the second fast tom part seemed a little off (high hat/snare beat). Some snare hits. Ill try to replay it and find exactly where. But I suppose take a look at it.

 

Looking forward to you finishing it! ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

 

I see what you mean by pro drums. I’ve got some time to work on it this weekend, so I’ll make the corrections now.

 

EDIT: actually…I don’t see it. Once the frame rate on the preview stabilized on reaper everything checked out as fine. Is it the multiple snare hits during the part “for all those years I had to get along, they told me I was wrong”?

[Cygnus]

I assume you know about the authoring docs. http://pksage.com/rbndocs/index.php?title=Main_Page

 

For Venue, first put practice sections in the Events track (to help the auto-generate do its thing better.) Then choose an auto-generate type in Magma such as Edgy Prog Rock and export it. Next, import that into the Venue track. For your first venue, just pick out a few (3-7) big moments in the song and put appropriate “directed” shots in those places. For example, there are great places for Guitar and Drums camera shots in the passage at 1:10.

 

After that, focus on some of the more interesting parts of the song for each instrument and add camera shots highlighting a few of those moments. Starting from an exported theme and making 15-20 changes like that are all you really need to do for now.

 

Thanks. Didn’t know the docs finally got rehosted somewhere.

[Cygnus]

I played the guitar part. Most of what you put down seemed reasonable. The alt strumming part is challenging but I think it works. I assume that since you posted this that you are looking for feedback. My primary feedback is to shorten the sustains so that they never reach the next notes.

 

I’m looking forward to playing the Bass part. I encourage you to finish it. In fact you may as well finish all of Clockwork Angels while you are at it. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_cheeky.001.gif” />

 

I am indeed looking for feedback on what’s done as I do intend to eventually get back to it. Hopefully as the summer winds down so will a lot of the BS I have to deal with and I can get back to charting. However, unless I find some guide to help me through the venue animations those will be largely unfinished because I have no idea what I’m doing on that front.

[Cygnus]

I’d love to play it but I’m not willing to sign up for a 4shared account just to download something.

 

Sorry. I forgot 4shared required an account. I’ll use other means from here on out.

[Cygnus]

So I wrote all of the lyrics to a file, that took a few minutes and deleted the lyric events on reaper. Importing from file took care of all the vocal errors, quantize worked on drums and guitar. I got a successful test of the 3 on expert. So I guess now I’m moving on to charting overdrive, drum animations and lower difficulties for the 3…then bass ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_cheeky.001.gif” />

 

Thank you guys so much. Nice to know I won’t have to spend countless hours debugging.

[Cygnus]

I’m ready to quit with all of these “minor offsets” that magma is giving me. I’ve got a million and one notes on drums and guitar that are out of whack thanks to reaper’s quirk of making notes slightly off or slightly not the right length even when the magnet is on or putting one note in a chord slightly off. I’ve been chipping away at them but these have killed my motivation to finish the song I’m working on as I have to go over just about all 6+ minutes on the two instruments. I’m trying to get a working vocal as it has the fewest errors but I can’t fix them.

 

For example, It claims that there is a misaligned lyric at measure 140.01 but it expected one at measure 140. However, there is not midi note or lyric/event whatsoever at 140. The closest I have is at 135 ish and I’ve deleted the midi note and associated lyric and re-made them but the error persists in Magma. How do I fix this one?

You should author everything with the grid snap turned on. Vocal grid should be set to 1/64.

 

For vocals, you should have all your syllables in a text file. Select all the notes with ctrl-A and hit Shift+L (assuming you have the RBN plugins installed). That’ll create a magically aligned lyric for every note.

 

Quantize is also your friend, as PW pointed out.

 

I always had snap to grid turned on (never turned it off), yet it happened anyway. I’ll give quantize a shot.

[Cygnus]

I see. Thanks.

[Cygnus]

That’s what I did. It doesn’t show up on the reaper preview.

 

[Cygnus]

Oh I had to open the vocal part. Tried it. Nothing appeared. Tried putting on the lyrics on one line, nothing.

 

Remember to select all the notes you need to import lyrics for. In 99.999% of the cases, that means CTRL+A for Select All and then import. Otherwise it won’t import a thing.

 

OH that’s how it works. I figured it converted the text into lyric/event/label things and I moved them into place.

 

Yep. That’s not going to work for me. I’m using the lyrics the lyrics and plus signs as guides for where notes start/end. It’s easier for me since that I’ll be asking a friend for help on the vocals charting.

 

Thanks again.

[Cygnus]

I’ve got two related questions:

The files from the other thread don’t add the import lyrics action mentioned in the cached docs. Is there another way?

What exactly are you asking here? How to import lyrics?

 

Open up the specific vocal chart in reaper (click on Harm1, Harm2, Part Vocals, etc). Click the actions tab, find import lyrics. In order to import lyrics, all the note tubes must be ready in the mid.

 

Your text file with the lyrics should look like this

Ly- ric + + A- no- ther + + Ly- ric

 

A space between each syllable, plus signs for pitch changes, and add # for any talkie.

Does that help?

 

Oh I had to open the vocal part. Tried it. Nothing appeared. Tried putting on the lyrics on one line, nothing.

[Cygnus]

Aw snap. The event text I’ve have to move around so far have not been cooperative or smooth. Charting vocals is going to be fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun.

 

Hopefully google will come up with a tutorial on how to chart the + and # manually.

 

The RBHP Contribution guide touches on those events, fwiw.

 

Found it. It’s quite thorough. It will come in useful for when I get around to charting vocals.

 

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[Cygnus]

I’ve got two related questions:

If there are no harmonies in the song can we just delete the HARM charts?

The files from the other thread don’t add the import lyrics action mentioned in the cached docs. Is there another way?

 

As far as I know, you can export them anyway — game won’t check the blank charts ’em up if you don’t indicate there are harmonies in Magma — but yeah, you can delete them. Can’t answer your second Q, unfortunately — I do all mine by hand LIKE A BOSS.

 

Aw snap. The event text I’ve have to move around so far have not been cooperative or smooth. Charting vocals is going to be fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun.

 

Hopefully google will come up with a tutorial on how to chart the + and # manually.

 

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[Cygnus]

I’ve got two related questions:

If there are no harmonies in the song can we just delete the HARM charts?

The files from the other thread don’t add the import lyrics action mentioned in the cached docs. Is there another way?

[Cygnus]

Maybe I’m not in a position to offer advice as I’m still working on my first song but here’s what I did and it was pretty painless. Since the song I’m working on has a constant tempo, I placed the recording of the song into reaper, used the drum beat to highlight one full measure as accurately as possible using the waveform and pressed Q. I had estimated the tempo to be 144 BPM, reaper spit out 139.XXXXX (some decimal number). I set that as the tempo for the whole song and sure enough it’s spot on. Be sure to set the metronome so that reaper knows what time signature it’s counting.

 

I can see how it would be annoying if you’re dealing with a bunch of abnormal time signatures and tempos though.

 

Anyway, that’s just how I did it, not sure how most do it. Just putting it out there because it worked great for me.

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