How to fix “misaligned lyric” magma errors?

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    I’m ready to quit with all of these “minor offsets” that magma is giving me. I’ve got a million and one notes on drums and guitar that are out of whack thanks to reaper’s quirk of making notes slightly off or slightly not the right length even when the magnet is on or putting one note in a chord slightly off. I’ve been chipping away at them but these have killed my motivation to finish the song I’m working on as I have to go over just about all 6+ minutes on the two instruments. I’m trying to get a working vocal as it has the fewest errors but I can’t fix them.

     

    For example, It claims that there is a misaligned lyric at measure 140.01 but it expected one at measure 140. However, there is not midi note or lyric/event whatsoever at 140. The closest I have is at 135 ish and I’ve deleted the midi note and associated lyric and re-made them but the error persists in Magma. How do I fix this one?

    #399674

    On drums, you can quantize the notes once you are finished to get rid of all of those errors. The default key to press is “Q”, and the quantize feature will line up all of the notes and get rid of those errors. The only thing you should note is that it will quantize the notes to whatever grid you are using (straight, triplet, etc.) So if you have a song with a bunch of triplets or some other division other than straight, you will want to select a section of notes, and then quantize.

     

    I’m sure quantize would also work with vocal notes, but I’m not sure if you could use it on vocal lyrics.

    #399675
    Nyxyxylyth
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      I’m ready to quit with all of these “minor offsets” that magma is giving me. I’ve got a million and one notes on drums and guitar that are out of whack thanks to reaper’s quirk of making notes slightly off or slightly not the right length even when the magnet is on or putting one note in a chord slightly off. I’ve been chipping away at them but these have killed my motivation to finish the song I’m working on as I have to go over just about all 6+ minutes on the two instruments. I’m trying to get a working vocal as it has the fewest errors but I can’t fix them.

       

      For example, It claims that there is a misaligned lyric at measure 140.01 but it expected one at measure 140. However, there is not midi note or lyric/event whatsoever at 140. The closest I have is at 135 ish and I’ve deleted the midi note and associated lyric and re-made them but the error persists in Magma. How do I fix this one?

      You should author everything with the grid snap turned on. Vocal grid should be set to 1/64.

       

      For vocals, you should have all your syllables in a text file. Select all the notes with ctrl-A and hit Shift+L (assuming you have the RBN plugins installed). That’ll create a magically aligned lyric for every note.

       

      Quantize is also your friend, as PW pointed out.

      #399677
      Farottone
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        For example, It claims that there is a misaligned lyric at measure 140.01 but it expected one at measure 140. However, there is not midi note or lyric/event whatsoever at 140.

         

        Check one key thing: do you have overlapping notes on vocals? If so, Magma will spit out billions of errors with no relevance to the track itself when all you need to fix is shorten one note so that it doesn’t touch the following one.

         

        Also, slightly misaligned lyrics are fixable selecting the few offending notes and pressing SHIFT+A.

        #399678
        ws54
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          When it comes to vocal notes, I’ve checked errors and check the data and everything matches perfectly, but errors persist. In that case, I delete the note and lyric and enter them again to correct it.

           

          I’ve also found that re-exporting the song again will sometimes change the output of errors, especially the ones that claim there are double beats but I’ve also noticed that some vocal problems can be solved this way too. So anytime I get an error that makes no sense the first thing I do is export again, especially if the project was successfully compiled previously.

          #399681
          I’m ready to quit with all of these “minor offsets” that magma is giving me. I’ve got a million and one notes on drums and guitar that are out of whack thanks to reaper’s quirk of making notes slightly off or slightly not the right length even when the magnet is on or putting one note in a chord slightly off. I’ve been chipping away at them but these have killed my motivation to finish the song I’m working on as I have to go over just about all 6+ minutes on the two instruments. I’m trying to get a working vocal as it has the fewest errors but I can’t fix them.

           

          For example, It claims that there is a misaligned lyric at measure 140.01 but it expected one at measure 140. However, there is not midi note or lyric/event whatsoever at 140. The closest I have is at 135 ish and I’ve deleted the midi note and associated lyric and re-made them but the error persists in Magma. How do I fix this one?

          You should author everything with the grid snap turned on. Vocal grid should be set to 1/64.

           

          For vocals, you should have all your syllables in a text file. Select all the notes with ctrl-A and hit Shift+L (assuming you have the RBN plugins installed). That’ll create a magically aligned lyric for every note.

           

          Quantize is also your friend, as PW pointed out.

           

          I always had snap to grid turned on (never turned it off), yet it happened anyway. I’ll give quantize a shot.

          #399684
          Farottone
          Keymaster

            I always had snap to grid turned on (never turned it off), yet it happened anyway. I’ll give quantize a shot.

             

            Remember that you can quantize note’s ends too.

            #399712

            So I wrote all of the lyrics to a file, that took a few minutes and deleted the lyric events on reaper. Importing from file took care of all the vocal errors, quantize worked on drums and guitar. I got a successful test of the 3 on expert. So I guess now I’m moving on to charting overdrive, drum animations and lower difficulties for the 3…then bass <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_cheeky.001.gif” />

             

            Thank you guys so much. Nice to know I won’t have to spend countless hours debugging.

            #402508
            ws54
            Participant

              I still struggle with this problem. I finally bit the bullet and took the approach of writing all lyrics to a text file and importing them (and keeping them in sync always) and that works great to get rid of the misaligned lyrics problems.

               

              But I stumbled upon what I think is the real cause of my problems. I had entered some of the lyrics as text events and not Lyrics events. I must have been adding the [play] states and then saw a lyric that needed adjusting and changed it as a text event. So if you have misaligned lyrics look for that. An easy way to check for this is to view the chart as an event list and then look in the “Type” column at all of your Text Events (unfortunately Reaper does not let you sort the events by type which would be really useful.)

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