C3 Automation Tools
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May 27, 2020 at 2:49 am #511730
- New “Create sing-a-long” function to auto-generate singalong notes in the VENUE track based off the vocal harmony notes.
Now this is awesome!
Thank you for all your work, kueller!
May 31, 2020 at 12:06 am #511794Awesome! Thanks
May 31, 2020 at 7:27 am #511798Mmm… what are “singalong” notes?
May 31, 2020 at 2:34 pm #511802Sing-a-long are the notes in the venue track that get the other band members to lipsync the harmony parts.
May 31, 2020 at 4:37 pm #511804Sing-a-long are the notes in the venue track that get the other band members to lipsync the harmony parts.
Thanks! I actually thought that those animations were based on harmonies dryvox files…
June 3, 2020 at 4:02 pm #511869Thanks! I actually thought that those animations were based on harmonies dryvox files…
They’re based on both. The dryvox audio creates the lipsync animations, but the sing-along notes trigger when those animations actually play.
June 3, 2020 at 6:47 pm #511874They’re based on both. The dryvox audio creates the lipsync animations, but the sing-along notes trigger when those animations actually play.
Thanks!
This might actually be useful… it sounds like I could use the same dryvox for all 3 harms, but then the sing-along events would make sure to show lipsync for only the notes that are part of the harmonies.
June 4, 2020 at 4:21 am #511886This might actually be useful… it sounds like I could use the same dryvox for all 3 harms, but then the sing-along events would make sure to show lipsync for only the notes that are part of the harmonies.
Correct, and in fact that’s basically how it was done for pre-RB3 content. The song would have one set of animations and the VENUE notes would dictate who got to sing along with the lead singer and when. That legacy is why RB3 harmony animations are controlled by those VENUE notes and not by text markers in the actual harmony tracks.
June 22, 2020 at 12:58 pm #512271- “Reduce pro keys note density based on 5-lane” function now copies expert pro keys to lower difficulties before applying reductions.
Can you share more details on how this works? It sounds useful to enable this sort of workflow:
1- chart Expert ProKeys (manual)
2- convert Expert ProKeys to Expert 5LaneKeys (manual)
3- reduce Expert 5LaneKeys to Hard/Medium/Easy 5LaneKeys (CAT)
4- reduce Expert ProKeys to Hard/Medium/Easy ProKeys (CAT)
So basically this new feature allows CAT to do step 4, right? If it works, then it should really help with all the customs which are currently left in a state without ProKeys reductions!
In the CAT documentation there is a feature mentioned also for step 2, but it was never implemented AFAIK. It would be awesome to have it, even if only created a draft, to be then manually adjusted. Personally I find the task of creating 5LaneKeys the most tedious of the whole authoring process, considering that almost nobody plays 5LaneKeys, but the game requires them if you have ProKeys ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_frown.gif” />
June 22, 2020 at 8:42 pm #512278Previously, when doing step 4, you had to paste the expert chart into the EMH sections before you ran the command. Now, that’s done for you. You still have to adjust sustains and reduce chords.
June 26, 2020 at 12:06 pm #512341Previously, when doing step 4, you had to paste the expert chart into the EMH sections before you ran the command. Now, that’s done for you. You still have to adjust sustains and reduce chords.
Ok, so that’s actually the latest improvement to the feature, which I suppose it only removes notes from Expert to H/M/E at certain times, so that they match the timings with 5LaneLeys H/M/E, but that’s it. Well at least that’s something.
In the CAT documentation there is also a mention of this feature:
PK->Keys (five or fewer notes) (all|selected)If the selected area has at most five distinct notes (C2 and C3 would be different notes), map them toGRYBO in ascending order and put them on the matching Keys note rowsBut this is marked red in the doc, so I guess it’s not yet implemented?
This would automate Step 2 in my list above, which as I said previously it would be very useful for me… I actually like charting ProKeys, but charting 5KeysLane is like a torture to me…
July 2, 2020 at 12:21 am #512470Keep in mind that the documentation was not written by me nor has been edited by me, so it reflects CAT as it was before I started developing for it. I didn’t know about that function personally. But if it only works on sections with 5-notes it doesn’t seem much harder to just copy and shift notes around manually.
July 2, 2020 at 5:16 am #512476But if it only works on sections with 5-notes it doesn’t seem much harder to just copy and shift notes around manually.
Now that I think about it, if it means that the WHOLE selected section must have the same 5 notes only, then it’s minimal useful, but still better than manually.
What I previously thought it meant, was that it required to have no more than 5 notes at any given time, but not necessarily the same 5 all the time, but that’s not the case. If it was like that, it would basically always allow to convert the whole song in one go.
However I would not underestimate the usefulness of automating copy/move operations. In my experience, most accidental errors in Reaper which later block Magma are in fact caused by copy-pasting.
July 3, 2020 at 9:48 am #512499I have not even heard of that function until this thread so I have honestly no idea how it works or was supposed to work. I think that kind of algorithmic reduction from real notes to 5-lane can be a bit tricky to get to a point of somewhat consistent reliability. The difficulty reduction functions have a lot of that and the original writers of that code deserve the most praise no matter what I do.
There will obviously be more functions in the future. The “Issues” tab on Github is also a place for feature requests and not just bug reports. I don’t guarantee I’ll accept them all, or get to all of them quickly, but it’s a good way to document what people want.
July 8, 2020 at 5:24 am #512635Forgive my n00bness, but how do I download CAT? I only see a link going to Github to download the SRC only…
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