[raynebc]

On the Phase Shift forum, it was mentioned that in some circumstances, the MIDI EOF writes doesn’t look the same in Reaper:

http://dwsk.proboards.com/post/15240/thread

 

Looking at the MIDI in Reaper, it’s like it starts bunching up a couple beats’ worth of notes into one beat, throwing things out of proper place and merging notes. This happens at the time signature change on measure 139. Looking at the contents of the MIDI file myself, I’m not seeing what’s wrong, the notes that are supposed to be a half beat apart are written about 240 deltas apart from each other (in #/4 time, 480 deltas should be one quarter note and also one beat) and notes that are supposed to be a quarter beat apart are written about 120 deltas apart:

Delta file pos=0x4FA4	Deltas=239	Real time=334631.269000ms	Delta time=396960	Adj. real time=334631.269000ms	Event file pos=0x4FA6	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=98, Velocity=100

Delta file pos=0x4FA8	Deltas=1	Real time=334632.101890ms	Delta time=396961	Adj. real time=334632.101890ms	Event file pos=0x4FA9	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=98, Velocity=0	(NOTE OFF)

Delta file pos=0x4FAB	Deltas=239	Real time=334831.162500ms	Delta time=397200	Adj. real time=334831.162500ms	Event file pos=0x4FAD	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=97, Velocity=100

Delta file pos=0x4FAF	Deltas=1	Real time=334831.995390ms	Delta time=397201	Adj. real time=334831.995390ms	Event file pos=0x4FB0	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=97, Velocity=0	(NOTE OFF)

Delta file pos=0x4FB2	Deltas=239	Real time=335031.056000ms	Delta time=397440	Adj. real time=335031.056000ms	Event file pos=0x4FB4	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=98, Velocity=100

Delta file pos=0x4FB6	Deltas=1	Real time=335031.888890ms	Delta time=397441	Adj. real time=335031.888890ms	Event file pos=0x4FB7	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=98, Velocity=0	(NOTE OFF)

Delta file pos=0x4FB9	Deltas=238	Real time=335230.116610ms	Delta time=397679	Adj. real time=335230.116610ms	Event file pos=0x4FBB	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=97, Velocity=100

Delta file pos=0x4FBD	Deltas=1	Real time=335230.949500ms	Delta time=397680	Adj. real time=335230.949500ms	Event file pos=0x4FBE	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=97, Velocity=0	(NOTE OFF)

Delta file pos=0x4FC0	Deltas=119	Real time=335330.063360ms	Delta time=397799	Adj. real time=335330.063360ms	Event file pos=0x4FC1	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=98, Velocity=100

Delta file pos=0x4FC3	Deltas=0	Real time=335330.063360ms	Delta time=397799	Adj. real time=335330.063360ms	Event file pos=0x4FC4	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=101, Velocity=100

Delta file pos=0x4FC6	Deltas=1	Real time=335330.896250ms	Delta time=397800	Adj. real time=335330.896250ms	Event file pos=0x4FC7	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=98, Velocity=0	(NOTE OFF)

Delta file pos=0x4FC9	Deltas=0	Real time=335330.896250ms	Delta time=397800	Adj. real time=335330.896250ms	Event file pos=0x4FCA	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=101, Velocity=0	(NOTE OFF)

Delta file pos=0x4FCC	Deltas=120	Real time=335430.843000ms	Delta time=397920	Adj. real time=335430.843000ms	Event file pos=0x4FCD	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=97, Velocity=100

Delta file pos=0x4FCF	Deltas=0	Real time=335430.843000ms	Delta time=397920	Adj. real time=335430.843000ms	Event file pos=0x4FD0	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=101, Velocity=100

Delta file pos=0x4FD2	Deltas=1	Real time=335431.675890ms	Delta time=397921	Adj. real time=335431.675890ms	Event file pos=0x4FD3	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=97, Velocity=0	(NOTE OFF)

Delta file pos=0x4FD5	Deltas=0	Real time=335431.675890ms	Delta time=397921	Adj. real time=335431.675890ms	Event file pos=0x4FD6	 (Running status): Event: Note on (Channel=0): Note #=101, Velocity=0	(NOTE OFF)

 

I don’t know why it’s displaying this way in Reaper, can anybody take a look at it to see what’s going on?

 

Here’s the MIDI file written by EOF:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/7nb72 … s_pt_2.mid

 

Thanks in advance.

[Farottone]

It’s a known Reaper bug. However, in this case I see nothing wrong when importing the midi.

[raynebc]

That’s good, I was worried it was a bug with EOF. Do you know which versions of Reaper are affected? I have a really old version (3.71) installed on my computer, as I only used it for testing purposes instead of authoring. I tried looking at the MIDI in Anvil Studio as well, but it also displayed strangely in that editor (but then again that editor has other problems like drawing measure markers as if there are always four beats per measure).

[Farottone]

Not sure it was ever fixed. The issue is that once your TS are wrong (you start a 4/4 signature at the 3 of a 5/4 measure in example), all subsequent TS changes are messed up, no matter if you fix the incorrect one.

[raynebc]

So should the user change the time signature to 5/4 at measure 138 to resolve this?

[Farottone]

So should the user change the time signature to 5/4 at measure 138 to resolve this?

 

Every TS change after the chewed measure needs to be changed, yes.

[raynebc]

Thank you, I made that change in EOF and then it looked fine in Reaper. I’ll suggest that to the user. I may even add a warning in EOF if this authoring problem is found.

[Nyxyxylyth]

It’s still in 4.x reaper as of a couple weeks ago.

[raynebc]

Has anybody brought it to Cokcos’ attention?

[raynebc]

I went ahead and emailed them a bug report.

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