Magma: C3 Roks Edition v3.3.2 [07/28/15]

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  • #428406

    Thanks Nemo! <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

    #428407

    Mind if I tell about some of the key features that were removed even if you don’t feel like listing them yourself?

    #428410
    Sideshow
    Participant

      Very cool addition of dropping a CON file into Magma and it fills in all the info of song automatically. I noticed the Build and Audition button was removed but because I never used the audition mode its not a big deal.

      #428411
      Very cool addition of dropping a CON file into Magma and it fills in all the info of song automatically. I noticed the Build and Audition button was removed but because I never used the audition mode its not a big deal.

       

      Actually, you could do that in the former version too, only it missed the album name/track number and possibly some other things.

      #428415
      TrojanNemo
      Participant
        Very cool addition of dropping a CON file into Magma and it fills in all the info of song automatically. I noticed the Build and Audition button was removed but because I never used the audition mode its not a big deal.

         

        It was added a loooong time ago. But that’s precisely why I highlighted it in the video. Not many people know about it.

         

        Actually, you could do that in the former version too, only it missed the album name/track number and possibly some other things.

         

        It didn’t miss anything. v3 adds the ability to detect instrument solos because I didn’t know about it, but everything else it does with v3 it did before.

         

        Mind if I tell about some of the key features that were removed even if you don’t feel like listing them yourself?

         

        If I wanted to list the things that were removed, I would have listed them. If I thought it would be useful to have them listed, I would have listed them. Do as you wish, I can’t stop you.

        #428416

        Alright, so among other things (for example audition mode as Sideshow pointed out), the new version do remove the ability to use custom skins, compile LIVE files and is without built-in 24-bit silence tracks, meaning you have to make those yourself now instead of just right clicking to add them for when using high definition 24-bit music files. There was some other things too, though the full list was removed, but yeah basically don’t delete the old version just yet if you use any of these features I would say.

        #428417
        Farottone
        Keymaster
          the new version is without built-in 24-bit silence tracks.

           

          Honestly, if anybody is only missing this feature, they can happily upgrade, making a 24-bit silence track once and using it everywhere is not a lot of work.

          #428420
          the new version is without built-in 24-bit silence tracks.

           

          Honestly, if anybody is only missing this feature, they can happily upgrade, making a 24-bit silence track once and using it everywhere is not a lot of work.

           

          Annoying though to have to locate a folder every time you wanna compile instead of just right clicking inside of Magma

          #428432
          TrojanNemo
          Participant

            So annoying. But how annoying exactly?

            I looked at 84 songs from the C3 database that you either authored in full or in part (i.e. you are in the author credit) and 83 used 16 bit audio and 1 used 15 bit audio (no idea). Not one file used 24 bit audio in the mogg. So either you have compiled an unknown amount of songs using 24 bit audio and MagmaCompiler downsamples to 16 bit, in which case there is no point in using 24 bit files, or you haven’t actually done a single release in 24 bit and are just complaining for the sake of complaining.

            Please tell me, which one is it?

            #428435

            Several of Gigakoop’s charts, that I have helped with compiling due to the lack of Linux support but not charted myself, use it so there is where it is used. It makes it much less of a hassle to help him out when I can just compile the songs like I normally do without having to keep blank sound files around in folders instead of inside the program.

             

            I am not going to use the new version, though I am not telling people to not use it themselves either. I am just saying, they should know if they will lose features they use before downloading.

            #428437
            TrojanNemo
            Participant

              Can you list a few that have been released? I want to verify whether MagmaCompiler is downsampling the audio or not.

              #428439
              Gigakoops
              Participant
                Can you list a few that have been released? I want to verify whether MagmaCompiler is downsampling the audio or not.

                 

                Every song I’ve authored (with the possible exception of Wrecking Ball due to NL handling those files) uses 24-bit audio. It’s sort of a force of habit of mine since the RBN days, when I was told that it was better to go for the best audio quality you could.

                #428442
                Nyxyxylyth
                Participant
                  Not one file used 24 bit audio in the mogg. So either you have compiled an unknown amount of songs using 24 bit audio and MagmaCompiler downsamples to 16 bit, in which case there is no point in using 24 bit files

                  I’ve been using 24-bit files for about a year. Magma must downsample.

                   

                  I think it’s only useful in the context of Magma tweaking mixing levels, but there you go.

                  #428447
                  TrojanNemo
                  Participant
                    Every song I’ve authored (with the possible exception of Wrecking Ball due to NL handling those files) uses 24-bit audio. It’s sort of a force of habit of mine since the RBN days, when I was told that it was better to go for the best audio quality you could.

                     

                    Tested the WIP tool with four of your songs, all show as 16-bit. So if someone can prove that I’m wrong, that’d be great. Otherwise, MagmaCompiler is downsampling to 16-bit.

                     


                    Welcome to the MIDI Analyzer
                    You can drag and drop a MIDI or CON file here
                    Or click on File -> Open MIDI or CON file
                    Ready to begin
                    Starting batch mogg file analysis...

                    1. deadmau5 - Ghosts n Stuff (ft. Rob Swire).mogg
                    File size: .......................... 7.03 MB
                    Encryption type: .................... 0xC3
                    Channels: ........................... 12
                    Sample rate: ........................ 44100 Hz
                    Bit depth: .......................... 16-bit
                    Length (in seconds): ................ 332.67

                    2. Enter Shikari - Mothership.mogg
                    File size: .......................... 5.47 MB
                    Encryption type: .................... 0xC3
                    Channels: ........................... 12
                    Sample rate: ........................ 44100 Hz
                    Bit depth: .......................... 16-bit
                    Length (in seconds): ................ 279.85

                    3. Gigakoops (feat. Nightmare Lyre and Squiggle Glitz) - Trumpy the Acid Trumpet in Space Adventure 9 The Chronicles of Life and Death.mogg
                    File size: .......................... 18.61 MB
                    Encryption type: .................... 0xC3
                    Channels: ........................... 16
                    Sample rate: ........................ 44100 Hz
                    Bit depth: .......................... 16-bit
                    Length (in seconds): ................ 164.5

                    4. Prozzäk - Sucks to Be You.mogg
                    File size: .......................... 4.32 MB
                    Encryption type: .................... 0xC3
                    Channels: ........................... 10
                    Sample rate: ........................ 44100 Hz
                    Bit depth: .......................... 16-bit
                    Length (in seconds): ................ 190.57

                    Total mogg files loaded: ............ 4
                    Total mogg files analyzed: .......... 4
                    Total mogg files skipped: ........... 0
                    Total encrypted mogg files: ......... 4
                    Total unencrypted mogg files: ....... 0

                    Mogg files using 16-bit audio: ...... 4
                    Mogg files using 24-bit audio: ...... 0
                    Mogg files using other bit depth audio: 0
                    Average number of channels per mogg: 12
                    Average length (in seconds) per mogg: 241.9
                    Average file size per mogg: ......... 8.86 MB

                    Batch mogg file analysis complete

                    #428454
                    AddyMills
                    Participant

                      Just in case you want more proof. If you choose not to encrypt your .mogg file and import it into Audacity, it’ll say each track is 16-bit.

                       

                      I tried this with a song I had full 24-bit multis for, all stems showed up as 16 when imported into Audacity.

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