How does C3 regard song ratings?

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    This is more of a thing of curiosity. I’d assume there are some general guidelines, and I myself have been thinking of researching and writing a guide. However, how does C3 do things? I’d like to know if they have a different set of standards than Harmonix in judging what is FF and what isn’t. Plus there are a few songs here and there *glares at Sunday Bloody Sunday* that are labelled as family friendly, at least in the database, that seem a bit objectionable. I’m not sure if this is the way it’s labelled in-game, since I’m trying to find a cheap used Wii before I start trying to play customs and possibly brick my Wii by accident, but if anyone can answer me I’d like to know.

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    Nyxyxylyth
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      This is more of a thing of curiosity. I’d assume there are some general guidelines, and I myself have been thinking of researching and writing a guide. However, how does C3 do things? I’d like to know if they have a different set of standards than Harmonix in judging what is FF and what isn’t. Plus there are a few songs here and there *glares at Sunday Bloody Sunday* that are labelled as family friendly, at least in the database, that seem a bit objectionable. I’m not sure if this is the way it’s labelled in-game, since I’m trying to find a cheap used Wii before I start trying to play customs and possibly brick my Wii by accident, but if anyone can answer me I’d like to know.

      If you’re lucky, the author remembers to pick a rating. The default is FF.

      #406044
      TrojanNemo
      Participant

        I’ve seen more than once the rating be brought up during playtesting

        I also take it very seriously and go based on the lyrics of the song.

         

        Default RBN value was unrated. Since the vast majority of songs are family friendly anyways i thought that was a good default setting.

        #406053

        What about Sunday Bloody Sunday? It may just be my opinion, but that seems to have a level of graphic violence above what a Harmonix-rated song would allow as FF, and still gets a pass anyway.

        #406054
        Nyxyxylyth
        Participant

          That one wasn’t lucky.

           

          It didn’t get a pass – there’s no conspiracy to accost sheltered youth. It’s just that nobody set it, and nobody noticed.

          #406057
          Farottone
          Keymaster

            It never ceases to amaze me how this project is most of the times treated like it’s a continuation of what Harmonix used to do. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”> We must be doing something right if our songs look like the real thing. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_biggrin.gif”>

            #406069
            pksage
            Keymaster

              As Nyx said, Sunday Bloody Sunday was almost certainly just an accident.

               

              In general, the guidelines are the same as Harmonix’s. Minor expletives (“damn”, “ass”, etc.) and lyrics about drugs or violence are Supervision Recommended. Major expletives (“shit”, “fuck”, etc.), explicit sexual content, and probably really nasty graphic violence get Mature.

               

              If you catch any other mis-ratings, let us know! I might patch up Sunday Bloody Sunday and re-upload it, because I tend to care about ratings more than most people do. Though I’m not sure why, to be honest.

              #406117

              So it was just a mistake? Interesting. Well, other than that I don’t really seem many else that rings any alarms. Maybe Bloody Well Right, but I guess “bloody”‘s more offensive in the UK than the US, so who knows.

               

              What about references to alcohol or smoking? I can only think of two instances of alcohol references getting away in actual Rock Band songs rated FF (those would be So What and Call Me), and I’m unsure of what you guys would think.

              #406120
              Nyxyxylyth
              Participant
                what you guys would think.

                I’d like all of mine to be Unrated.

                #406122
                TrojanNemo
                Participant

                  You can do that too i suppose. But why?

                  #406123
                  Nyxyxylyth
                  Participant
                    You can do that too i suppose. But why?

                    Because it’s so open to interpretation. Who decides?

                    Maybe Bloody Well Right, but I guess “bloody”‘s more offensive in the UK than the US, so who knows.

                    The nature of language defies a consistent approach. “Squeeze my lemon” ain’t about fruit.

                    #406124
                    TrojanNemo
                    Participant

                      Well I think the author should decide. By picking unrated you’re not helping the person who would be shocked to play a FF song that happened to refer to sexy parties.

                       

                      And frankly there is nothing in the lyrics of any song that “kids” who would play this game haven’t already been exposed to by virtue of being online.

                      #406126
                      Nyxyxylyth
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                        Well I think the author should decide. By picking unrated you’re not helping the person who would be shocked to play a FF song that happened to refer to sexy parties.

                        I’m deliberately not helping – if you want to play in the shallow end of the pool, then pick FF, and stay there.

                        #406135
                        I’m deliberately not helping – if you want to play in the shallow end of the pool, then pick FF, and stay there.

                         

                        That doesn’t seem like the best attitude to have for the possible happy families playing our customs.

                        #406137
                        espher
                        Participant

                          For some reason I thought Unrated songs didn’t show up when you filtered by tier (or am I thinking of how L:RB handled them).

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