Best way to remove fade-outs?
- This topic is empty.
-
Posts
-
I have a couple of songs in the pipeline that will need a proper ending edited onto them, but I have no idea how to do this (I only have the single track to work with). Does anyone have any tips on manipulating the sound, copying and cross-fading from an earlier section etc. ? Every attempt I make just sounds incredibly jarring.
If there’s a good spot to cut the track without it feeling terrible, you can just try and loop the last note a few times with an echo/fadeout effect, or copy-paste a riff a second time or something. It’s tough to say without hearing the track in question, but perhaps some of the folks who’ve had to deal with it a little more can tell you.
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”>First thing is to try and normalize the audio in Audacity or any other decent audio editor. Very rarely enevloping the track works (if it works, great, but I’ve personally never got it to work reliably), if it doesn’t, recognize the pattern in the audio. Usually it’s a measure. Then select from the beginning of that pattern, generally a kick, to the end of the pattern, and amplify. Be careful to amplify just enough so that the volume doesn’t change too much, don’t overdo it. Then play back from the measure before the one you edited and listen if you can spot the change. If you can, it’s bad, undo and repeat amplifying less or changing the spot where you start to change volume. Rinse and repeat.
To end the song without it being too abrupt, well, yes, it depends on the song. Espher already gave you excellent advices.
Cool, thanks guys, I’ll give it another shot
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” /> Time to play around in Audacity…Forgot to mention. The reason why you want to start on a kick or on a loud sound is because the volume goes up anyway. If you try to start amplifying from the middle of a section with a constant sound, you will notice the change in volume right away.
I have to chime in here because I think trying to increase the volume at the end of a song sounds bad and I’d like to see a different approach used. If there is a good way to splice some earlier part of the song to the end so as to have a nice ending, then great. Otherwise I think you should just let the song fade away and stop the charting at a reasonable place without trying to chart every last note. If you place the music_end event at the right place the cheers will help to cover up the last of the fade out and I think it sounds decent. You could also adjust the volume at the end to make the song fade away faster, but on a straight line or curve. Both of these things are what TV Producers do when a song fades out at the end. (usually when a performance is lip-synced.)
Otherwise I think you should just let the song fade away and stop the charting at a reasonable place.(usually when a performance is lip-synced.)I have to disagree. Even though we’re playing with plastic instruments in an imaginary venue with virtual characters, the fade-outs make the experience kind of…fake. It’s like, “alright, I can see the end of the cha–wait, why is the volume going dow–waitwait, why does the chart end here? There’s still a few seco–waaaaait a minute, my character stopped playing the guitar but I can still hear it in the backgrou–NO. NO. THE SONG IS NOT OVER NOOOO. WHYYYYYYY.”
– “I Wanna Rock” in Encore the 80s ended in a fade-out. Some fans raged when they found out.
– A couple of songs in The Beatles: Rock Band end in a fade-out and feel odd to play IMO.
– They split “Chump/Longview” into two songs, but didn’t bother to edit the fade-out in “Longview.”
I have to disagree. Even though we’re playing with plastic instruments in an imaginary venue with virtual characters, the fade-outs make the experience kind of…fake.
Absolutely. Nothing breaks the magic of the game like suddenly realising you’re not really playing a song. That’s why we ask authors to clean fade outs. Normalization can definitely be done tastefully and while having a sound bite repeat at the end is not perfect, it’s better than pounding away on the drums or clicking away on guitar at the sound of nothing.
Having the volume of the fade increase when it should be fading is not good either. It feels very unnatural and also takes you out of the fantasy of the song. If you must increase the volume of the fade out then it would be better to do it on a straight line or a curve. Doing it measure by measure only emphasizes the flaw repeatedly. If the standard is to not have notes uncharted then it would be far better to do your own faster 1-2 second fade out (but not while singing is going on) and then place the applause at the perfect place to hide it best as possible. The song is going to end unnaturally anyway so you may as well not alter the volume of the fade out except for a very quick one. Better to only have 1 flaw than several. TV has done this for years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoeAqeKW5Wk.
Having the volume of the fade increase when it should be fading is not good either. It feels very unnatural and also takes you out of the fantasy of the song. If you must increase the volume of the fade out then it would be better to do it on a straight line or a curve. Doing it measure by measure only emphasizes the flaw repeatedly.If you don’t do it right, yes, that’s why I stressed that you need to choose the right points to start changing volume from and the right target volume.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.