song cap woes

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      So I haven’t played a custom in quite a few weeks, due to a song limit ordeal. I generally add customs every month or two, in a big batch of 50 or so. When I went to add the latest batch, an admittedly large 80+ songs, I seemed to encounter the dreaded limit. Here what happened:

       

      My XBox loads all the previously included songs, and then begins the processing of adding new songs to the library. When it gets through the entire list, it freezes up on the very last song.

       

      Initially I figure that I managed to go over the limit (I didn’t know at the time, because the game wouldn’t load past that screen, but I was actually only at about 2750). I decided to delete a large batch of seldom-played customs and DLC. I remove at least 40 or 50 old songs, and try again. Same response.

       

      I decide that instead of being at the hard limit, my 360 is probably struggling to add that many songs at once, at least when it already has such a full library.

       

      So today, I finally go in and delete most of those recently-added songs, to prevent it from crashing when attempting adding them. Success! After I get down to about 20 new songs, the game loads. That’s when I see, I’m still well below the limit, by now at about 2550 songs. I delete more old songs, and start adding songs in very small batches. Success, again…initially. I’m now at 2574 songs and can’t load more than a handful at a time. I’m guessing before long, I won’t be able to add a single one before it locks up.

       

       

      Sorry about the wall of text..I just wanted to explain myself before asking…is anyone familiar with this situation? The “official” song limit is supposedly 2952. I know that results vary, but I feel like I should still be able to squeeze in a couple hundred more.

       

      Googling around a bit, the internets tell me that pro upgrades don’t count towards the song cap…but is there a scenario where this might not be the case?

       

      How about RBHP upgrades? I have a couple hundred of those, and a little mental math tells me that those two upgrades might be accounting for my premature cap.

       

      Any other suggestions?

       

      Thanks in advance for any advice.

      #457753
      Farottone
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        One silent thing that may be going on is that you have abandoned IDs in your cache, and for those you can only delete the cache and start again.

        #457770
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          One silent thing that may be going on is that you have abandoned IDs in your cache, and for those you can only delete the cache and start again.

           

          Yep, I should have noted trying this, since I know the song cache is so often the fix-all.

           

          I did try deleting the song cache on my customs stick, to no avail. I also tried deleting the one on the HD, since I had previously lost scores anyway. Neither worked.

           

          Any other reason you can think of?

           

          I did notice that I have a few songs appearing that don’t exist — RBHP files that I accidentally downloaded for songs I don’t have. Those have never been an issue before, but maybe as the library gets larger?

           

          Thanks again.

          #457772
          Farottone
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            Nemo is constantly on the limit and I don’t think he ever reported issues.

            #457777
            TrojanNemo
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              No issues here. The only issues I’ve had related to the song cap is when I go over. If your cache is messed up, it might take you over when you’re not. If you’ve batch added all RBHP files, you might go over simply because the cache think you have all those songs that you have RBHP upgrades for.

               

              But no other issues besides that.

              #457783
              psiven
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                I’ve chased similar symptoms to this, usually it boils down to extra songIDs lurking in the cache. Deleting songs that are already in the cache consistently causes issues for me as well (possibly only RBHP ones). My usual process:

                 

                – Copy songcache over and extract it with this tool

                – Look at song data in Excel and scour for bad IDs, songs that shouldn’t be there, duplicates etc.

                – Delete culprits, clear cache, load up clean

                – RBHP dummy steps

                – Load without dummy

                 

                I still have a few orphans that don’t show up (banished import tracks) but I am able to rub up against the proper song cap now.

                #457799
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                  I’ve chased similar symptoms to this, usually it boils down to extra songIDs lurking in the cache. Deleting songs that are already in the cache consistently causes issues for me as well (possibly only RBHP ones). My usual process:

                   

                  – Copy songcache over and extract it with this tool

                  – Look at song data in Excel and scour for bad IDs, songs that shouldn’t be there, duplicates etc.

                  – Delete culprits, clear cache, load up clean

                  – RBHP dummy steps

                  – Load without dummy

                   

                  I still have a few orphans that don’t show up (banished import tracks) but I am able to rub up against the proper song cap now.

                  This sounds plausible, I will try it!

                   

                  thank you

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