Vocal lyric syllables question
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September 10, 2013 at 8:44 pm #389190
I’m not sure if this is really a minuscule, unimportant detail, but I decided to ask anyway.
In the song I’m charting, the lyrics include the world “malaise”. However, the way the vocalist sings it seems to add an extra syllable to the word. The “-laise” part sounds like E “la-” then G “ise” (pronounced like “ease”) which slides back down to E.
Should I:
A. Split up “laise” into “la-” “ise”
B. Just have one “laise” lyric that slides from E to G then back down
C. Write it out phonetically like “ma- la- ees” or something like that
D. Something else I haven’t thought of
September 10, 2013 at 8:48 pm #406005I’m not sure if this is really a minuscule, unimportant detail, but I decided to ask anyway.In the song I’m charting, the lyrics include the world “malaise”. However, the way the vocalist sings it seems to add an extra syllable to the word. The “-laise” part sounds like E “la-” then G “ise” (pronounced like “ease”) which slides back down to E.
Should I:
A. Split up “laise” into “la-” “ise”
B. Just have one “laise” lyric that slides from E to G then back down
C. Write it out phonetically like “ma- la- ees” or something like that
D. Something else I haven’t thought of
Ma- la- ise sounds fine.
December 31, 2014 at 9:49 am #435431Sorry for resurrecting this topic but I’ve encountered a similar situation with the word “rhythm”.
It sounds like two syllables so I’m reluctant two make it a slide, but cutting the word it in half or leaving out the second pitch doesn’t feel entirely good either.
How would you go about this?
Rhy-thm?
December 31, 2014 at 11:47 am #435433Sorry for resurrecting this topic but I’ve encountered a similar situation with the word “rhythm”.It sounds like two syllables so I’m reluctant two make it a slide, but cutting the word it in half or leaving out the second pitch doesn’t feel entirely good either.
How would you go about this?
Rhy-thm?
Much like “ever” and “very”, “rhythm” can be separated to either “rhy-thm” or “rhyth-m”. I would choose “rhyth-m” myself because of the M sound being emphasized as its own syllable.
December 31, 2014 at 12:34 pm #435434Okay, that sounds like a good solution. Thank you for your reply.
January 23, 2015 at 4:59 am #436817Hey guys, I have a question about the correct way to add lyrics to my notes. I read all I can find on vocal authoring but there’s no definitive guide on what to do and trying to follow the http://pksage.com/rbndocs/index.php?tit … _Authoring isn’t working. Whenever I try to create a slide between 2 different sounding notes of the same syllable, I fail to make it work. What I read shows this as an example:
Yeah (over 2 notes):: Yeah +
This is not telling me how to fill out the lyric markers to make it work. I have tried every combo of plus signs and spaces and a few hyphens after whole words and syllables and the closest I’ve come is “did+” “n’t” Can anyone please tell me what I’m missing? I read and watched everything on vocals I can find and there isn’t much at all.
Thanks
January 23, 2015 at 5:12 am #436819Two notes, first note being “Yeah” and the second being “+”
January 23, 2015 at 5:18 am #436821Thanks for the quick reply, trying to finish my first custom by Saturday.
So the game will break up the word on its own then? Also for 4 syllables with all different notes, the full word goes in one and the following 3 all just get a + is that right? No spaces?
January 23, 2015 at 5:24 am #436822To clarify
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Ye- ah ye- ah
Yeah + yeah +
Yeah + + +
will all cover four notes, in slightly different ways.
January 23, 2015 at 11:25 am #436830Thanks for the quick reply, trying to finish my first custom by Saturday.So the game will break up the word on its own then? Also for 4 syllables with all different notes, the full word goes in one and the following 3 all just get a + is that right? No spaces?
A slide isn’t a syllable. Slides just have + as the lyric. No spaces.
January 25, 2015 at 2:14 pm #437022To clarifyYeah yeah yeah yeah
Ye- ah ye- ah
Yeah + yeah +
Yeah + + +
will all cover four notes, in slightly different ways.
To expand upon this,
“Yeah yeah yeah yeah” gives each of the four notes its own full world lyric.
“Ye- ah ye- ah” gives each of the four notes its own syllable (they will appear exactly like this in scrolling mode, and as the full word in static vocals mode, with each syllable highlighted for the duration of the note).
“Yeah + yeah +” will turn four notes into two words w/ slides, with the space between each “yeah” and each “+” being a linear ascending/descending line to ‘fill in the blank’ of the slide. If someone starts a syllable on an A, holds it for a beat, and then eventually ends up on B and holds it for a beat, you’d author a beat-length A note (with a lyric event of the syllable in question) starting when they start the word and ending when they start to leave the A pitch, and then author a beat-length B note (with a lyric event of +) starting when they hit B and ending when they stop that syllable.
“Yeah + + +” will turn four notes into one word w/ three slides, similar to the above. This is generally done when a lyric switches between pitches with clearly audible ‘stops’ on specific pitches.
There’s also “Ye= ah ye= ah”, which is functionally identical to the second option, but instead of displaying “Yeah yeah” as lyrics in static vocals mode, it will show “Ye-ah” “Ye-ah”. You wouldn’t use this with “yeah”, but would use it with compound words (e.g. “drive- by” would show up as “driveby”, but “drive= by” would show up as “drive-by”) or cases where you have someone who is st-st-st-stuttering a lyric (e.g. “st- st- st- stut- ter” would show up as “ststststutter”, but “st= st= st= stut- ter” would be “st-st-st-stutter”).
A lot of people don’t use the = symbol because 95% of people play in scrolling lyrics mode. I used to, too, until I switched it for RBHP video capture… and now I really can’t go back. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_emot-3.gif”>
I would recommend ripping out some existing .mid files (or, for example, downloading some of the RBHP stuff and taking a look at it) to get a ‘feel’ for it.
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