More Re-licensing [RHCP, Locksley]
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This may or may not be old news, but this really bugs me, either way. Harmonix has officially announced that ALL of the RHCP that they have for purchase will be taken down by the end of September. Does this mean that the rest of the content will, over time, go away?
http://www.rockband.com/blog/informatio … -licensing
Thought I had more time to save up, but I guess I have to blow the money I was saving on those songs ASAP before they disappear
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_frown.gif” />EDIT: Just realized this probably belongs more in General Discussion, if someone could move it, I’d greatly appreciate it. Sorry for the mistake.
It’s kinda sorta old news as they announced this batch alongside August’s removal(s?).
It’s why I bumped the Locksley RB:HP upgrades up in the schedule.
It’s kinda sorta old news as they announced this batch alongside August’s removal(s?).It’s why I bumped the Locksley RB:HP upgrades up in the schedule.
Yeah, that really sucks that they’re doing this. Can’t believe I didn’t hear about it till now.
Well they tried to re-license them even if they failed and have been nice and given us a bigger time window with their warning than usual, so that’s good at least. But yeah, suck to lose the RHCP tracks especially (I am glad I bought most of those back in RB1 and now have all of them).
Well they tried to re-license them even if they failed and have been nice and given us a bigger time window with their warning than usual, so that’s good at least. But yeah, sucks to lose the RHCP tracks especially (I am glad I bought most of those back in RB1 and now have all of them).Well I’m not so pissed at Harmonix, more at the record companies for charging insane amounts for… well, everything!
Well I’m not so pissed at Harmonix, more at the record companies for charging insane amounts for… well, everything!Ah I see, yeah same here
Music licensing is really annoying. Most of the time labels don’t understand the value of promoting a product. There are plent of TV series that were maimed once released on DVD because relicensing all the songs used in all the seasons would have been too costly. But the result is that while the lable is not giving away for free something, their songs aren’t getting an iconic status anyway. And those songs that already achieved an iconic status won’t the the reason why someone buys a DVD anyway.
Music licensing is really annoying. Most of the time labels don’t understand the value of promoting a product. There are plenty of TV series that were maimed once released on DVD because relicensing all the songs used in all the seasons would have been too costly. But the result is that while the label is not giving away for free something, their songs aren’t getting an iconic status anyway. And those songs that already achieved an iconic status won’t the the reason why someone buys a DVD anyway.Yeah, the fact that companies consider it illegal to put up a video on youtube with film footage and music is ridiculous to say the least. Free advertisement has never been more prominent, and companies wanna wish that away with bills like SOPA. Stupid people piss me off.
I don’t think they quite realize the power fans have over their profits. For example, I bought V for Vendetta because of a video that featured that film edited to a Megadeth song. No one made any profit with that video other than the movie company and the record company (I mean, I had already bought the album the song was on, but still).
If anything, the companies should be paying the fans to make these videos, not the other way around like they want it!
Music licensing is really annoying. Most of the time labels don’t understand the value of promoting a product.I think the fact is that RBN and/or lesser DLC levels (anything under $1000) just aren’t worth bothering with when you’ve got $350/hr lawyers running the show.
“The Luck You Got” made something like $150 on RBN. Compare that to the six figures in royalties that the band has gotten (and is still getting) for the same song being the theme to Showtime’s “Shameless” series.
You can make a powerful argument for secondary sales, or the fact that it’s not either-or, but it’s honestly rarely worth the time it takes to set up the deal.
I think the fact is that RBN and/or lesser DLC levels (anything under $1000) just aren’t worth bothering with when you’ve got $350/hr lawyers running the show.
“The Luck You Got” made something like $150 on RBN. Compare that to the six figures in royalties that the band has gotten (and is still getting) for the same song being the theme to Showtime’s “Shameless” series.
You can make a powerful argument for secondary sales, or the fact that it’s not either-or, but it’s honestly rarely worth the time it takes to set up the deal.
I get all that, we (me and my wife) actually worked with many talents living on a royalty system. And when I said “promoting a product” I didn’t mean “make a buck”, I really meant promoting. I don’t expect every single artists to make money off something, I expect them to understand the value of raising awareness of their “brand” (quotes are because I’m not talking just commercially). When big artists secretly go playing in very small gig, they don’t recoupe the money they spent getting there. That, though, adds to their aura. And I can barely understand bands like Led Zeppelin not caring about having a bigger recognition factor, but any other less famous band? As an artist, if you don’t care about even 30/40 people more listening to what you create, what do you care about? Royalties? And if your song makes a TV series scene iconic, do you not want that because you didn’t get the money for the DVD version? It’s all good, but if I hear you calling yourself an artists I’ll kick you in groin.
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_biggrin.gif”>I don’t expect every single artists to make money off something, I expect them to understand the value of raising awareness of their “brand” (quotes are because I’m not talking just commercially). When big artists secretly go playing in very small gig, they don’t recoupe the money they spent getting there. That, though, adds to their aura. And I can barely understand bands like Led Zeppelin not caring about having a bigger recognition factor, but any other less famous band? As an artist, if you don’t care about even 30/40 people more listening to what you create, what do you care about? Royalties? And if your song makes a TV series scene iconic, do you not want that because you didn’t get the money for the DVD version? It’s all good, but if I hear you calling yourself an artists I’ll kick you in groin.” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_biggrin.gif”>Sure, but it’s not up to the artist – it’s up to the label.
I saw two RBN deals die because the song was co-published: both the artist and the label had full rights to distribute it. But Harmonix is so spooked, they need both parties to sign – and the label isn’t about to bother.
There are plenty of TV series that were maimed once released on DVD because relicensing all the songs used in all the seasons would have been too costly.If you’re familiar with Tour of Duty, the Vietnam War drama from the 80s, that was one of the most tragic instances of this. Tons of 60s rock & roll music in the show that was gutted and replaced with typical tv show music when they released it on DVD. So sad.
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_frown.gif” />On the plus side, the eventual disappearance of all the stuff on the RB store gives me an excuse to buy any of the good stuff I’m missing from my library.
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_biggrin.gif” />If you’re familiar with Tour of Duty, the Vietnam War drama from the 80s, that was one of the most tragic instances of this. Tons of 60s rock & roll music in the show that was gutted and replaced with typical tv show music when they released it on DVD. So sad.
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_frown.gif”>Yep, I collect TV series, so yeah, very familiar with that.
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”> And with Roswell and many others…It would appear that the post-Rock Band 3 RHCP DLC is still available for purchase.
Though, the rest of the DLC being pulled doesn’t really affect me because I already purchased all of the RHCP songs I was interested in.
All my RHCP songs I got for free OR was part of a pack (Blitz Pack has “Give It Away”)… (Some are customs).
I only have 9 RHCP songs too… 1 from Blitz pack, 5 for free, and 4 as customs. (The 5 for free were literally free… Accidental. When I first got RB3, we bought it on Amazon and it was MadCatz version so we did send it back for a full refund… However the guy also sent a code for 5 RHCP songs and I totally forgot to package the code back with the game… So ye’h. Ended up using it
).Reason why I mentioned that… One of the RHCP songs in that 5 pack was already down by the time I used that code so if you are lucky enough to find an unused code, then there’s a way to get said songs even after they are down… But that really depends on luck!
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