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April 15, 2013 at 12:09 am #388442
Hi all,
some of you may have seen the video I posted earlier on the 360iso forum, showcasing around 50 custom songs I charted. If you haven’t here’s the link to the video:
So far I’ve received some nice replies and requests to make them public. Thing is I only have the Guitar and Bass parts charted on Hard and Expert atm. My drumming skills are poor and so I don’t think I would be able to chart Drums properly, because I have no idea when a song is too hard or too easy to play. Same goes for Keys.
I’ve never looked into charting Vox and Animations, basicly I never really cared about those I just wanted to play the songs I loved. But after seeing this ‘rapture’ happen it got me thinking; wouldn’t it be cool to actually share the songs I have and hopefully release them for C3 in full glory.
I think my charts are pretty good, better then a lot of customs out there. They probably need a little tweaking to match your standards; OD phases / minor note stuff etc. And ofcourse I would have to chart the Easy / Medium difficulties, but that shouldn’t be a problem.
Anyways, I hope there is some way to got my stuff released. I realize it is a lot of work to add the missing features. I might actually be able to do some of the stuff myself when I read up on those subjects (drums/vox I’m not sure about). Please let me know what you guys think and whether or not it’s possible for me to be part of the team. Ofcourse I’m also still working on new stuff pretty much every day, I love charting ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_biggrin.gif” />
The list:
Alan Parsons Project, The – Sirius / Eye in the Sky
Animals, The – Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood
Animals, The – House of the Rising Sun
Black Sabbath – Iron Man (partly converted)
Black Sabbath – Paranoid (partly converted)
Cardigans, The – My Favourite Game (I think TrojanNemo released his version of this?)
Cranberries, The – Zombie
Cream – White Room
David Lee Roth – Just Like Paradise
Derek and the Dominos – Layla
Dope – You Spin Me ‘Round (Like a Record)
Foreigner – Juke Box Hero (partly converted)
George Harrison – Got My Mind Set On You
Guano Apes – Lords of the Boards
Guano Apes – Open Your Eyes
Iron Butterfly – In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
John Miles – Music (some violin play charted to guitar)
Led Zeppelin – Whole Lotta Love
Limp Bizkit – Break Stuff
Mamas and the Papas, The – California Dreamin’
Mavericks, The – Dance the Night Away
Megadeth – Duke Nukem Theme
Michael Jackson – Dirty Diana
Nancy Sinatra – These Boots Are Made for Walking
Osmonds, The – Crazy Horses
Pink Floyd – The Happiest Days of Our Lives / Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2) (might change some rhythm stuff to lead)
Quiet Riot – Cum on Feel the Noize (someone released a version, but I think mine is better, no offense)
Rammstein – Amerika
Rammstein – Feuer Frei
Santana feat. The Product G&B – Maria Maria
Scorpions – No One Like You
Servant, The – Cells (Instrumental Version)
Shocking Blue – Venus
Shuki Levy – X-Men Theme
Shadows, The – Apache
Steppenwolf – Born to Be Wild
Surfaris – Wipe Out
Tenacious D – Beelzeboss (The Final Showdown)
Tenacious D – Kickapoo
Tenacious D – POD
Tenacious D – Wonderboy
Toto – Hold the Line (has some bass charted to guitar)
Toto – Stop Loving You
Wig Wam – In My Dreams
Within Temptation – Ice Queen
X – Wild Thing
ZZ Top – Sharp Dressed Man (partly converted)
ZZ Top – Tush
Songs I’m working on atm:
Anouk – Nobody’s Wife
Little Richard – Long Tall Sally
Mighty RAW, The – Go Go Power Rangers
U2 – Pride (In the Name of Love)
Warrant – Heaven
April 15, 2013 at 12:43 am #398387I sat through the entire twenty minute video earlier. I have to say I was impressed with the volume of the catalogue, the tempo mapping (which, at least in the snippets showed, seemed great to me — this is an area a lot of people struggle), and the diversity of track selections. You’ve hit the type of stuff we’d like to be putting out spot on the nose, so that’s a big plus.
I do have to say there were a couple of things in pretty much every chart that seemed a little off to me — primarily the odd notes that felt like they were left out or something feeling off with the way you had them ascending/descending the cart — but hey, when I was starting out my charts were a goddamn trainwreck compared to those, so it’s definitely a solid start. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”>
Don’t take that too harshly or the wrong way, though — we all have areas where we can improve, and I think you’ve got the right attitude for this sort of thing.
If you’re looking to do collaboration-style projects and get other people in for drums/vocals and optionally keys, I’d say the best plan is probably looking at working on a small subset of your existing back catalogue at a time — it makes it easier to focus on getting those guitar and bass parts up to speed. I might take a look at a couple of those picks and see about authoring drums/vocals, but I’ll have to look the list over again and see what I feel I can hammer out in a reasonable amount of time.
April 15, 2013 at 12:44 am #398388Animals, The – Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood
Animals, The – House of the Rising Sun (This is out already, full band)
Black Sabbath – Iron Man (partly converted)
Cardigans, The – My Favourite Game (I think TrojanNemo released his version of this? Yes)
Cranberries, The – Zombie
Cream – White Room
Derek and the Dominos – Layla (on processing queue, it will be out later this year)
George Harrison – Got My Mind Set On You
Iron Butterfly – In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
Led Zeppelin – Whole Lotta Love
Mamas and the Papas, The – California Dreamin’
Michael Jackson – Dirty Diana
Nancy Sinatra – These Boots Are Made for Walking
Quiet Riot – Cum on Feel the Noize (someone released a version, but I think mine is better, no offense) No it’s not! (wonder who released that other version…)
Steppenwolf – Born to Be Wild
Surfaris – Wipe Out
Little Richard – Long Tall Sally
Welcome! Quite a few interesting songs in there. Bolded are songs I would personally be interested in adding vocals and drums. I think Nemo would help with animations like the great guy that he is. Not bolded I could pitch in, let’s see what my mates have to say. In red stuff that needs attention but not authoring.
I’m on CET here is I gotta grab some sleep but tomorrow we can chat some more. Do you have a space to load those CONs so we take a look at the charts?
April 15, 2013 at 12:54 am #398389Toto – Hold the Line (has some bass charted to guitar)This was in my queue anyhow – tempo map, guitar, and bass would be a great help.
April 15, 2013 at 1:15 am #398390Quiet Riot – Cum on Feel the Noize (someone released a version, but I think mine is better, no offense) No it’s not! (wonder who released that other version…)
Ahh sorry bout that, hope I didn’t offend you or anything. The one thing that I really didn’t like in that version is that it ends so abruptly, I’d prefer the song to fade out instead of cutting it off all of a sudden (even if it is a little bit weird having a song fade out while playing). I’m wondering now if you also made the Beach Boys songs? If I remember correctly, those also have that sudden cut of sound in the end. I was actually planning to redo those as well with the fading intact, for personal use ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif” /> Anyways I’m off to bed as well now, will be on tomorrow.
April 15, 2013 at 2:13 am #398393yes farottone indeed made those Beach Boys songs…and I also agree the abrupt cutting off of the sound is weird
but fading out also sucks. we really need songs that end without a fade for this kind of thing. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />
April 15, 2013 at 9:18 am #398397Ahh sorry bout that, hope I didn’t offend you or anything. The one thing that I really didn’t like in that version is that it ends so abruptly, I’d prefer the song to fade out instead of cutting it off all of a sudden (even if it is a little bit weird having a song fade out while playing). I’m wondering now if you also made the Beach Boys songs? If I remember correctly, those also have that sudden cut of sound in the end. I was actually planning to redo those as well with the fading intact, for personal use ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif”> Anyways I’m off to bed as well now, will be on tomorrow.
I was kidding. I hate fadeouts but we rarely have stems (we had those for the Pantera songs) so I have to compromise. I think it’s worth it to find someone with a nice audio engineering background to apply some kind of samples, maybe taken from the song itself, to wrap it up (a splash, in example).
April 15, 2013 at 11:23 am #398399I do have to say there were a couple of things in pretty much every chart that seemed a little off to me — primarily the odd notes that felt like they were left out or something feeling off with the way you had them ascending/descending the cart — but hey, when I was starting out my charts were a goddamn trainwreck compared to those, so it’s definitely a solid start. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />
Hmm, I base nearly all of my charts on actual sheet music and adjust when necessary (the sheets aren’t always as accurate). In some cases I even feel I’m overcharting, making some tracks really hard to play on Expert (I’m not the best Guitar player though and struggle on Expert so that might have something to do with it). But I don’t think I left out notes or anything, sure there might be some ocassional hickups. In some songs it’s just really hard to hear what’s going on as well, as you will know. The tempo mapping sometimes was a problem when I just started charting. Over time I learned some tricks to make things work and the tempo mapping is something I’m real fussy about. Since I started out I always wanted to chart John Miles – Music but I could never map it correctly (the song goes into a 7/4 measure at a certain point and changes tempo a lot) I just recently managed to finally get it sorted. I used to produce dance tracks that were actually released in stores on vinyl, so I guess that helped me a lot with the tempo mapping stuff. I might even be able to add those end splashes farottone was talking about earlier.
April 15, 2013 at 11:47 am #398400I used to produce dance tracks that were actually released in stores on vinyl, so I guess that helped me a lot with the tempo mapping stuff. I might even be able to add those end splashes farottone was talking about earlier.
That would be useful, yes. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”> By the way, for Whole Lotta Love we have stems, so that’s gonna be nice. Well, it’s gonna be devastating authoring vocals, but nice. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”>
Do you need a place to upload your CONs or do you have some filesharing account?
April 15, 2013 at 11:56 am #398401That would be useful, yes. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” /> By the way, for Whole Lotta Love we have stems, so that’s gonna be nice. Well, it’s gonna be devastating authoring vocals, but nice. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />Do you need a place to upload your CONs or do you have some filesharing account?
I could upload .cons to my personal webspace I guess, but as I mentioned they don’t have the easy/medium difficulties charted yet. So I don’t know if there’s much use for uploading anything right now?
April 15, 2013 at 12:18 pm #398402I could upload .cons to my personal webspace I guess, but as I mentioned they don’t have the easy/medium difficulties charted yet. So I don’t know if there’s much use for uploading anything right now?
Reduction is the least of the issues, if any. But it would help going through those songs in Reaper to check them out and see what kind of work is needed, how MIDI files we have for vocals fit with the tempo map (for thos eof us working with MIDI files), etc. Or, if you work in Reaper, just the original Reaper projects with the audio files.
April 15, 2013 at 2:19 pm #398408I can upload Born to Be Wild, I’m currently working on the easy/medium difficulties. Would you prefer the reaper/mp3 files or the .con file?
April 15, 2013 at 2:26 pm #398410Reaper/Media is always easier since all we’d be doing with a CON is ripping the .mid and .mogg.
As to my point about missing notes, it’s just a lot of little flourishes and touches that are maybe a little different in the recorded track than any sheet music or arrangement. Like the charts themselves look great as general reference but there’s some fretting action that just seems to be absent. Occasionally things like the way ascending/descending notes are wrapped seemed a little wonky too. I’d have to watch the video again to pick out some examples, but like I said, they’re not major issues. Just stuff I happened to catch (likely because it’s the stuff I always look for on the second/third passes of my own charts).
April 15, 2013 at 2:56 pm #398413April 16, 2013 at 10:43 am #398453I’m gonna try and see if I can chart the drums and vocals myself
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