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80 bucks more for a real pedal a midi outport and the ability to change midi notes. not to mention the ability to add more pads to it and a better resale value…kind of a no brainer
While I would normally agree that the 80 dollar jump would be a no brainer. My concern is actually I would rather have two of the same kick pedals. Versus one mallet and one non-mallet. I feel like that would mess with my timing and feel of playing. So I would have to buy an actual double kick on top of the extra 80. Now were looking at 200 extra to play.
I’m still going back and forth between the two though. Because I can definitely see the pros you mentioned being worth close to that.
MIDI-OX will simply re-route the signal to whatever, in this case the USB<->MIDI interface. Your drum brain should have options to remap pads to whatever notes you need.
I’ve used MIDI-OX in this capacity before, and I didn’t have latency issues, there shouldn’t be. MIDI is lightning fast and all that this does is transfering data. MIDI is data, and very little of it. The only con to that method is the setup.
There are many programs that can do the same, including REAPER, the software used to chart RB songs officially. I don’t believe that MIDI-OX can remap notes, but there should be a way to do it via REAPER, though it is not as user friendly.
Awesome, thanks for the detailed explanation! Always great to get a second person to confirm before making a purchase like this.
Hey, coincidentally I recently tried to get the Alesis Turbo working and the biggest problem was its lack of MIDI out. I use RB3 but presumably this would also work with RB4 and the PDP Wired Legacy Adapter. To get it working I used:
- Rock Band MIDI Pro Adapter
- USB-B cable (since the Turbo doesn’t come with one)
- MIDI In/Out to USB interface cable
- A Windows computer
- MIDI-OX software (midiox.com)
Use the usb cable to connect the drum module to the computer, then use the USB/MIDI interface to connect the MIDI Out cable to the Pro Adapter.
In the MIDI-OX software go to Options >> MIDI Devices, then select Alesis Turbo as the input and USB MIDI as the Output and click OK. It should begin keeping a log on screen of when you trigger the pads and routing that out to the Pro Adapter.
It works great, with a couple minor annoyances:
- Didn’t notice any velocity sensitivity
- The kick pedal does not register as being held down, so you need another controller to pull up the alphabet menu in-game
Also, I don’t recommend this particular cable because it is very sensitive and disconnect if nudged even slightly:
Nor do I recommend this item as a substitute for a computer because it simply didn’t work for some reason:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074NGTGHN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Wow, thanks for the detailed reply, this is very helpful! That’s definitely exciting to hear that its feasible with the Turbo kit.
Just to confirm, I presume that with the Midi-ox software you can map the different drums how you so choose, so you were able to map the hihat pedal as the second kick?
Also, did you have any headaches with latency issues or hits not registering, anything like that? I’m curious after going through this method, would you still prefer to purchase the Turbo, or would you rather have shelled out the extra 80 for the nitro?
with the nitro you could probably program the hihat pedal to be a bass drum…if you didn’t want to have it as an open and closed hi hat….
Yea, I was thinking about doing that actually. The one problem would be that the kick is an actual mallet, and obviously the hihat is not. I’m not sure how that different feel would effect my timing. That’s why the Turbo appealed to me initially. It looks like I’ll just have to try and see!
with a quick google you would find out the turbo doesn’t have a midi out port. so you would have to run it to your computer and assuming the software you run it too can change the midi notes out to your console then the answer is yes for mapping the hi hat pedal. if the software can’t program the note number which normally the module does then no you won’t be able to do number 2.
the tubro is most likely recommended as it’s the cheapest ekit you possible can get that has both midi note program ability and a midi out port…to my knowledge
Appreciate the advice! It seems like running through a computer program may just be an extra step that could cause more headache and unforeseen problems, even if I could get it work. Frankly, I dont have much experience in this area, so I may just want to stick with what is already proven, and spend the extra on a Nitro and a double kick pedal
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