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Pulp’s “Different Class” 3-Pack
Today we revisit some tracks from Pulp’s 1994 masterpiece, “Different Class”. Widely regarded as one of the best albums in the 90’s, and a cornerstone of Britpop, this is a phenomenal album. Known for mega hits like “Common People” and “Disco 2000”, but the rest of the tracks on this album are just as phenomenal.
“Sorted for E’s and Wizz” is was the second single from the album, released as a double single with “Mis-Shapes” (previously charted by me). Based lyrically on a phrase that Cocker overheard at a rave, the song features lyrics examining the hollow and artificial nature of drug culture. Because of its subject matter, the song sparked controversy in the UK, where several tabloids attacked the song. It got it’s live debut at Glastonbury festival – as frontman Jarvis Cocker said, “It just seemed like a totally appropriate place to play it for the first time”. It’s just a great, hugely affecting song.
Today we revisit some tracks from Pulp’s 1994 masterpiece, “Different Class”. Widely regarded as one of the best albums in the 90’s, and a cornerstone of Britpop, this is a phenomenal album. Known for mega hits like “Common People” and “Disco 2000”, but the rest of the tracks on this album are just as phenomenal.
“Underwear” is one of those classic Pulp tunes exploring sexuality, and the darker side of it. Jarvis Cocker said “This is about going home with someone, which seems like a good thing to do when you decide to do it. But when you get to the actual nitty-gritty, when you are actually standing in your underwear you think I can’t go through with this, but how do you get out of that situation”.
It’s a phenomenal, sexual and dark song that’s even more relevant in today’s MeToo society, as it explores the pressure on girls to “go along” with what they’re started and their inability to regret and refuse: “Once it’s underway, there’s no escaping The fact that you’re a girl and he’s a boy”. And it comes with a blistering performance from the band, and Cocker himself.
“Bar Italia” is the album closer, and the final piece of the puzzle in “Different Class”. It’s like the characters of “Sorted for E’s and Wizz” revisited a bit later – in the comedown stage. “Two sugars would be great – cause I’m fading fast and it’s nearly dawn”, sings Jarvis Cocker.
“Bar Italia” boasts a phenomenal, big and catchy chorus, full with feelings of paranoia and dread. “If we get through this alive, I’ll meet you next week, same place, same time” – Cocker describes the inevitable outcome of another drug trip next week, assuming of course they survive this one. The final chorus do end on a more positive note – heavily implying the singer and his partner have decided to check in to a rehab place in Soho. Well, good luck.Radiohead 3 Pack + Mac DeMarco
The 3 Radiohead songs also includes my first attempts at a custom venue, so I would love to hear feedback
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The first song and leads single from Radiohead’s great “A Moon Shaped Pool” from 2016.
Written and developed for over a decade, the song title and lyrics were known to fans since 2007, but they’ve never actually heard it. I’ll probably never forget the excitement of the song finally being released – Radiohead deleting their own internet presence, replacing their site with a bird, and the song eventually dropping. It was spectacular, and well, it still is.“Burn the Witch” is strings based, and uses strings plucked with a guitar pick for percussion, along with some drums and bass. It is a criticism of authority and fascist regimes brainwashing their citizens. Rock-Band wise, it doesn’t have guitar but keys players will have some fun with the various string parts, and singing is an absolute blast.
Another one from “A Moon Shaped Pool”, “Identikit” was introduced in the “King of Limbs” tour. It’s percussion based, with a slight electronic vibe but also very guitar heavy, and features two prominent voices. The backing vocals sing a repeated chant (which is quite varied melodically), who’s exact lyrics were a mystery until Thom Yorke himself confirmed them on Twitter – and they also include the phrase “A Moon Shaped Pool”. The song itself is beautiful with a great melody, before breaking into a synth-heavy breakdown and finally returning to another verse and a phenomenal guitar solo by Jonny Greenwood.
This is an upgrade of the original Sideshow custom, so thanks Sideshow for approving me working on it!This is my favorite ever Radiohead song. The closer of the classic “Hail to the Thief”, “A Wolf at the Door” is a very dark song. Thom spitting the lyrics in almost rap-like manner, with barely any room to breathe, the lyrics of paranoia, fear and desperation. We’re not so sure what it’s about – maybe an abusive husband, the mafia/underworld, the government interfering with your life, or (my favorite interpretation) about mental illness/anxiety which means the “wolf” knocking on your door is actually inside your brain. All of those work to an extent. But the feelings those song convey, they are unmatched and very clear.Also, the instruments are all great on that one, so it’s fantastic for Rock Band. Some really epic drum fills, and overall it’s a great custom.Plus – another custom by Mac DeMarco I released this week:
Have fun!Thanks Yaniv can not wait to add to collection
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Kicking off the new DB era with a 3-pack from Kendrick Lamar’s 2015 masterpiece, “To Pimp a Butterfly”. Widely regarded as one of the finest hip hop albums of the decade (and all-time), TPAB incorporates a variety of styles from traditional African-American music, including jazz, funk, soul, spoken word, and avant-garde. It’s lyrics tell a personal story of African-American culture, racial inequality, depression, and institutional discrimination. It earned 11 Grammy nominations, was named as a top 5 album of the decade by many publications including the Independent (who placed it first), Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, Consequence of Sound and others. The Guardian has named it the 4th best album of the current century, and Rolling Stone magazine has recently ranked it as the 19th best album of all time (!) – the second highest ranked album from the 21th century.
If it’s not clear, those songs include very strong language, and frequent use of the n-word (right up from the very first line…).
“Wesley’s Theory” is the opening track of the album, and it’s a fitting and amazing opener for such a record. Produced by Flying Lotus, the track is noticeable for his live instruments, particularly a phenomenal bass performance from the legendary Thundercat. It also features guest vocals from Thundercat, George Clinton, Anna Wise an Dr. Dre. It tells the story of a young black rapper who’s rising to success and getting exploited by the entertainment industry, and the title references Wesley Snipes, the actor who ended up in jail for tax fraud. It’s my personal favorite from this album, I just find it amazingly fun and poignant, and it’s just a fantastic song overall.
“King Kunta” is the third single and one of the biggest hits from the album. It once again heavily features Thundercat who plays a groovy bass line and also co-produces the track. The title refers to Kunta Kinte, a fictional 18th-century slave, the main character of the novel Roots: The Saga of an American Family by Alex Haley. Kinte is known for having his right foot cut off because of his attempts to escape his plantation, which is heavily referenced in the song. The song also references “Smooth Criminal” by Michael Jackson – who’s listed as a co-writer – and ends up with a rousing sample of “We Want the Funk” by Ahmad Lewis, as the song climaxes in a celebration of guitars and vocals.
“The Blacker the Berry” arrives near the end of the album, and it’s possibly the most emotional and angriest moment in it. It features a furious Kendrick Lamar heavily discussing racism, hate against the black community, while also being critical of himself – “I’m the biggest hypocrite of 2015” he repeatedly sings. It’s a deeply personal and angry song, and also features a phenomenal chorus by Jamaican artist Assassin. It ends on a highly controversial note, when Lemar finally explains his own hypocrisy, in a line that’s been seen as judgmental of the black community, but Lemar has stood by it and insists it’s based on his own experience. Anyway, it’s a phenomenal song from a great album.
Hope you’ll enjoy the songs, there’s a lot more to come so stay tuned! See you soon
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Thanks CapnKris for the preview videos!
From their first and masterful album “Funeral”, “Crown of Love” is one of the album’s most heartwarming and beautiful moments. A touching love ballad, it builds on gentle piano before entering the blistering chorus – “If you still want me, please forgive me…”. The song builds up as it climaxes in a dramatic vocals section, before doubling the tempo to a disco-influenced outro. Overall it’s an amazing and touching song from a great record.
From the second and underrated “Neon Bible” – “Windowsill” is a very strong song that touches on politics, MTV and disappointment in the USA. Building on acoustic guitar, it’s one of those epic and touching Arcade Fire songs – it was chosen to close their big headline show at Primavera Festival for a good reason! It’s an underrated song from an underrated album, and a blast to sing along.
From their epic “The Suburbs”, “Suburban War” is one of the most loved and biggest highlights of the album. Over brilliant guitar arpeggios, the song discusses old friends, childhood, references the title track (actually repeats a whole verse), but the real highlight is the second part of the song – an epic climax based on a brilliant drum pattern, as Win Butler repeats “My old friends, they don’t know me now” as the song builds to a rousing conclusion. It’s a huge fan favorite and one of my personal favorite songs, and for a good reason.
From their ambitious double album “Reflektor” – for me, “Awful Sound” is the best song of that album by far, and one of my favorite Arcade Fire songs. It’s a psychedelic sound that builds from a very tense groove, into an amazing, big chorus (with a huge drum fill in between). The second verse is even more tense, with a huge build up before finishing with a length, Beatles-style coda. The lyrics uses the fable of Orpheus and Eurydice as a metaphor for the toxic relationship of a couple. It’s yet another fantastic song from this great band, and one that’s fans are sure to appreciate.
From their latest and controversial album, “Everything Now” – I bring you the title track and lead single. It’s a huge anthem, with very heavy disco influences, and was made for stadiums – there’s actually a bit that’s sung by a huge live audience, and recorded live by an actual crowd at an Arcade Fire show. The album got, hmm, a mixed reception – but the lead single is a very strong and fun song that’s a worthy addition to your Rock Band library. So have fun!
Hope you liked the songs, see you next time!
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9 hours ago, Dangus said:I’m so excited for everything noW! One of my favorite songs of the past couple years!
thank you!
Thank you! Don’t sleep on “Awful Sound”, it’s possibly my favorite of this pack (between this and Suburban War, but I think Awful Sound possibly makes a better custom. Those drum fills!).
Awesome release! Arcade Fire are my favourite band of the last 20 years. And huge thanks for charting Pro Keys
” data-emoticon=”” src=”/emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” title=” ” />4 hours ago, Shroud said:Awesome release! Arcade Fire are my favourite band of the last 20 years. And huge thanks for charting Pro Keys
” data-emoticon=”” src=”/emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” title=” ” />You’re welcome! It’s good to know all the work on transcribing those pro keys isn’t in vein
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Hello, Yaniv and Kamotch here, and we hope you like Pavement! Because if you do, we have one hell of a pack for you. (and if you don’t, now is a great time to check them out!).
By now, it’s safe to say that Pavement are among the greatest legends of indie music. The California-based rock band, led by singer-songwriter-guitarist Stephen Malkmus, have started gathering their cult following in the early 90’s. They had one brush with mainstream success with “Cut Your Hair”, but have opted not to sign to a major label and were seemingly happy to stay underground.
Pavement are considered to be one of the most influential bands of their generation, and are widely credited with inventing the modern “indie” sound. Their music is notable for Malkmus’ humorous and often cryptic lyrical themes, blistering guitars and drums, and the sloppy aesthetic in their music, usually performed live with mistakes being kept in. Pavement enjoy a huge following worldwide, are universally critically acclaimed and are widely regarded as one of the best rock bands of the 90’s. They reunited for a hugely successful world tour in 2010, and were scheduled for a second reunion headlining 2020’s Primavera Sound festival, but the event was postponed to 2021 due to Covid-19.
Both of us are huge Pavement fans, and we’ve teamed together to bring you no less than 18 (!!!) of their songs to Rock Band. So, let’s begin…
Slanted & Enchanted
“I think Slanted and Enchanted probably is the best record we made, only because it’s less self-conscious and has an unrepeatable energy about it”
-Stephen Malkmus
Pavement’s debut album is widely regarded as a masterpiece and a milestone of indie music. It’s noticeable for the lofi sound, and being the only album to feature drummer Gary Young (who was fired from the band because of his drinking problems, and being unable to keep a constant tempo – his playing was too sloppy even for Pavement). The album widely circulated underground on cassettes, slowly gaining attention for it’s brilliant hooks and songwriting.
It’s now regarded as a stone cold classic: Pitchfork awarded the album their maximum grade of 10.0/10.0 and ranked it as the fifth greatest album of the 1990s, Rolling Stone called it “the quintessential indie rock album” and placed it on the magazine’s list of the 500 greatest albums of all time, Billboard called it a “slacker masterpiece” and “the definitive indie rock album“, and so on. We’re happy to bring to Rock Band no less than 7 out of the album’s 14 songs.
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The opening track to Pavement’s debut LP: “Summer Babe (Winter Version)”! For many people, this was their first exposure to the band and it remains one of their most popular songs. Years before discovering the customs community, I had made a drum chart for the song in REAPER and loved to “play” along with it from my computer screen. It’s an honor to finally release the full-band version to the public.
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The second song off “Slanted”, “Trigger Cut” is another classic Pavement – melodic, catchy, brilliant guitars and drums, puzzling lyrics that are still weirdly touching. It’s a live staple and a fan favorite, has some great drum fills to play, and ends with a nice jammy instrumental coda.
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The lyrics to this song have long been speculated. The title is, of course, “No Life Singed Her”, and yet the lyric from which the title is supposedly derived doesn’t sound like he’s saying that at all. It sounds more like “No life for gingers” instead. While this is an odd message, it’s just impossible to hear the title of the song as the actual lyrics. They’re not even the same amount of syllables! Anyway, respect to any gingers who download the song. It’s a blast on drums.
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One of the album’s masterpieces, “In the Mouth a Desert” is a bit of a psychedelic ballad, with a rousing chorus that has Malkmus singing on top of his voice – “I’ve been crowned the king of id” – while somehow still maintaining the album’s overall lo-fi sound. It’s a classic Pavement jam and builds up to a rousing conclusion, and widely regarded as one of the band’s best ever songs.
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One of my favorites from their first album. As far as I know, “Loretta’s Scars” isn’t a particularly popular song among fans, but I’ve always been fond of it. It has a nice chord progression. There are some keys throughout the verses, but they would have been difficult to transcribe, so the most prominent parts I’ve incorporated into the guitar chart. Please don’t hate me for that.
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“Here” is a somewhat rare gentle moment in this electrifying album. It’s a classic melody by Malkmus, evolving from his lower range to the higher, with touching lyrics such as the classic opening lines, “I was dressed for success/but success it never comes”. It featured on movies like “The Perks of Being a Wallflower” and “The Art of Getting By”, and is another all-time great tune from Pavement.
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Immediately following “Here”, “Two States” is the polar opposite – it’s Pavement’s at their silliest and somehow still best. Written by guitarist Scott Kannberg, it’s a short, upbeat song with a great drum beat about wanting to split California into two states. Featuring some awesome guitar work by Malkmus, you’re now free to scream “FORTY! MILLION! DAGGERS!” like so many Pavement fans have been doing for years.
Watery, Domestic
Sandwiched in between the two biggest Pavement records, “Watery, Domestic” is a 4-song EP that’s a definite fan favorite. Noticeable for it’s infamous rooster cover, the EP is just 12 minutes long, but it includes it’s fair share of classics, and we’re happy to bring 3 songs from it to Rock Band.
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“Texas Never Whispers” opens up the EP, which ended up being the last record with original drummer Gary Young. But it’s a terrific record to go out on. All 4 tracks are great, with 3 of them appearing in this very pack of songs! Of the 3 though, this track in particular is a great showcase of Young’s skill as a drummer. Also, check out that deafening key intro! Magma killin’ it with the autogen venue!
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I once wrote a paper in college about Pavement’s contribution to the Lo-Fi movement and titled it “Pavement: So Much Style That It’s Wasted”. That title, of course, comes from this song, “Frontwards”! It’s such a good descriptor of the band, I just had to use it. The song itself is kind of a slow jam, maybe not super interesting on any individual instrument, but it’s one my favorites to listen to. Plus singing the song, with that line in particular, would likely be pretty satisfying.
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My favorite song on “Watery, Domestic”, “Shoot the Singer (1 Sick Verse)”. I don’t really know what it is about the song, it just makes me feel good whenever I hear it. Most of the lyrics don’t make much sense to me, but boy if I don’t get pumped hearing “Slow it down, song is sacred / And brother, you’re a hunter and you’re right at home.” It’s nonsense, but I love it!
Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
Pavement’s second album is widely regarded as their second masterpiece. It showcases the band moving away from their lo-fi sound and a bit closer to a more accessible sound, while not deserting their great songwriting and imperfect aesthetics, with most of the songs recorded in one or two takes. Five key tracks from the album are previously available for Rock Band: “Silence Kid”, “Stop Breathin’”, “Gold Soundz” (named by Pitchfork as the best song of the 90’s) and “Unfair” were charted by Yaniv, while lead single and modest-hit “Cut Your Hair” was converted from Guitar Hero by Mr. Prezident. We’re happy to add two more to the mix:
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At one point — and this has since changed — I remember consciously deciding this was one of my 3 favorite songs of all time. It was “Elevate Me Later” along with Superchunk’s “Cursed Mirror” and Modest Mouse’s “Polar Opposites”. After this release, all that’s left is the Superchunk song, so look forward to that at some point! As for this song, supposedly it was first conceived as a sort-of sequel to Loretta’s Scars from the first album. A demo version even exists with the title “Ell Ess Two”. Fun fact!
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One of the biggest songs from the record, “Range Life” is a beautiful song with a breezy country-rock vibe. It features Stephen Malkmus fantasizing on a simpler life of the countryside, “if I could settle down – then I would settle down”, over some brilliant guitars (3 guitar solos!) and some nice piano (a rarity for Pavement). The chorus is unbelievably catchy and “Range Life” is one of those undisputed Pavement classics.
It’s also a fairly controversial song, because of the third verse where Malkmus seems to diss the Smashing Pumpkins (“I don’t understand what they mean and I could really give a fuck”) and Stone Temple Pilots, which allegedly caused the Smashing Pumpkins to pressure Lollapalooza festival into kicking Pavement out of the lineup (a rumor that was denied by the Smashing Pumpkins). But Malkmus insists he didn’t mean to diss the band which he likes, but only their status in music and was meant to laugh at himself and how out of touch he is with the times. Regardless of this silly beef, “Range life” remains a classic song and a fantastic addition to Rock Band.
Wowee Zowee
After “Crooked Rain” and “Cut Your Hair” in particular, Pavement were well positioned to break into rock mainstream. But instead they decided to release their weirdest album to date – the clattered, varied, 18-songs long “Wowee Zowee”, who’s been compared to their “White Album”. The album was so unusual, that many speculated it was deliberate from Pavement who were “afraid of success” and wanted it to fail. But Malkmus insists the songs “sounded like hits” to him, even though his judgement might have been influenced by “smoking a lot of grass” at that time. The album received mix reviews at the time, but found it’s audience over time – the Rolling Stone magazine originally gave it 2.5 stars out of 5, but in 2014 declared it “a masterpiece”. “Wowee Zowee” has it’s fair share of absolute gems, and is wildly loved by the Pavement community, and we’re happy to bring two songs from it:
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“Kennel District” is one of the rare tracks in Pavement’s catalogue, that wasn’t written by Malkmus but by guitarist Scott Kannberg, aka Spiral Stairs. It’s a sweet, beautiful song – even uncharacteristically sweet, because it’s less puzzling than the average Malkmus song – with some brilliant drum fills, and overall it’s a really great song to play in Rock Band.
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Back on the old Harmonix forums, in the “Ultimate Setlist” section, there would occasionally be “Community Setlist” threads where users would suggest bands and songs to be voted into a hypothetical Rock Band sequel. The day had finally come where a band I knew and liked was being voted on — Pavement. I had long since acquired the deluxe versions of their first 2 albums and that apparently made me an expert. I don’t even remember which song I voted on, but I knew the one that ended up winning, “Grave Architecture”, was a song I had never heard at the time. And after finally charting the song, I gotta say they made a really good choice. Very good full-band song! Might be my favorite drum solo to play in the game.
Brighten the Corners
The fourth album from Pavement saw them getting back to a more accessible and cohesive sound and approach, and represents another strong set of songs for the band. It’s notable particularly for it’s two opening tracks, both of them are stone cold Pavement classics and presented here:
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“Stereo” is one of Pavement’s biggest hits. It’s also one of their weirdest hits. They performed the song live on television at least a couple times, much to the audience’s confusion. Stephen Malkmus goes from singing to talking to yelling at various points in the song. It’s gold! Most importantly, it includes perhaps the best exchange in musical history: “What about the voice of Geddy Lee? / How did it get so high? / I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy.” “I know him, and he does!” “And you’re my fact-checking cuz.”
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“Shady Lane” is a classic Malkmus composition. It’s not easy to say what it’s about – something about differences between social classes – but anyway it’s filled with delightful Malkmus wordplay and one-liners, such as the classic “You’ve been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to your life”. It’s possibly one of the catchiest Pavement songs ever, particularly the brilliant “oh my god” sequence in the chorus, and is widely adored by hardcore and casual fans alike.
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AKA the extremely curious case of “the Spotify hit”.
If you’ve looked up Pavement on Spotify, you’d find that their most popular song – by a wide margin too – is a b-side called “Harness Your Hopes”. So how come an obscure b-side, from their least popular album, suddenly became the band’s most well known song? For years it was a gem for hardcore fans only. It wasn’t featured in any movie, wasn’t covered by anybody. In the 2010 reunion tour, it wasn’t played at all, which confirmed its status as an obscure gem. So what happened?
The answer is, well – nobody knows. You can read an entire article about it here, jumping into theories of Spotify algorithms that somehow made the song popular. It’s a mystery – maybe some random dude on Spotify just likes the song, and apparently it went viral on TikTok at some point – but there it is. An obscure b-side that almost nobody heard for years, have become their biggest hit 30 years later.
Or maybe there’s another reason – it’s just a great fucking song. It’s catchy as hell, it has some top-level nonsense lyrics and some unforgettable lines – “Show me a word that rhymes with Pavement, and I won’t kill your parents and roast them on a spit” – and as far as fun goes, it has to be one of the most purely-fun songs Pavement has ever done. And now you can enjoy all that fun in Rock Band!
Terror Twilight
Pavement’s final album, “Terror Twilight”, has all the classic ingredients of a breakup album – a barely functioning band whose members live in 5 different states, an outsider producer (the legendary Nigel Godrich, producer of Radiohead and Beck) who admired the band, yet didn’t quite fully gel with them, an alternative drummer brought in for 2 songs to replace Steve West because of inner conflicts, and so on – it’s basically the “Let it Be” of Pavement, and was more of a Malkmus solo project than a real band effort. However, Malkmus is still an amazingly talented songwriter and this album still have quite a lot of beautiful gems. One is the opener “Spit on a Stranger”, charted previously here. Another gem is this one:
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“Major Leagues” is one of Pavement’s softest, most sentimental songs to date. It’s a lovely ballad full of beautiful guitars discussing a broken relationship. Guitarist Scott Kanenberg named it one of his favorite Pavement tracks, saying it’s “beautiful” and a “perfect pop song”, and saying Malkmus himself probably hated it because “He had something against playing great pop songs”. But lucky for us, he got over himself and put it on the record – and here it is, in all it’s gentle beauty, in Rock Band 3.
Phew! That’s it, this project took us a lot of time to complete and just kept growing as we couldn’t resist throwing in more songs. We hope you enjoy the result! For Pavement fans this will probably be amazing, but if you’re not familiar with them, or just know a few songs – this is a great opportunity to get into one of the best rock bands in history. We promise, those songs are a delight to play and work perfectly on Rock Band, and they’re all fantastic songs. So have fun, let us know how it went, and see you next time!
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