Which is better, or an alternative?

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    lifeismusic5
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      So Im a novice at charting songs, been attempting to for quite some time with very little results, as obviously youve never seen a song from me yet. I use all the tools given by C3, BUT the main issue lies from where Im charting the songs.

       

      I use at the moment EOF, I was told EOF was for beginners, but its very hard to get used to because its so painstakingly tedious. Been trying it since I started.

       

      But theres also Reaper which Ive been told is a better charting program & more accurate, but its for more experienced charters.

       

      Is there an inbetween or is that most likely it? Which is the better option for a beginner?

      #495555
      TheSheepQueen
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        Reaper is not particularly for experienced authors, I’vé been making all of my RB customs on it. In fact I find it way more intuitive than EOF. Just grab yourself the authoring guide and go step to step. I’d say start with Guitar, Bass, Keys, then Drums, Pro Keys and Vocals. It’s really just a matter of not giving up on it!

        #495562
        lifeismusic5
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          Thanks! Ive been finding it hard to chart songs with EOF, I attempted to use Reaper but it seems much more complicated, but maybe I just havent gotten much into Reaper to find out.

          #495566

          I started authoring with zero experience about a year ago and have only used Reaper.

           

          Authoring has a bit of a learning curve to get the basics down – follow the guides to set up your environment then you can use the C3 template for your custom and use CAT to start the process of doing reductions for Hard, Medium and Easy when the time comes.

           

          I would say that once you understand how the software works there are two main things to learn:

           

          tempo mapping, so that your chart is in sync with the song

          charting – which you will develop a feel for the more you do it.

           

          There’s plenty of documentation to read and lots of support available here on the forums.

           

          Also there are a couple of plugins that are very helpful for different aspects of charting. ReaPitch lets you adjust the pitch of songs – I was advised to increase the pitch of a song up an octave to help with charting bass for example. In the same vein I also use bassmanager to boost the bass.

           

          I also find it helpful to watch video previews of songs that I know to see how they were charted.

          #495572
          lifeismusic5
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            Ill try it, Ive look through this site for more information, hopefully Ill be able to get down the charting process so that it doesnt seem so scary or should I say intimidating. I mean its got a learning curve for sure, & it should be an easy process but like, Ill hear a song, be like I really think I could chart this! Then when I get to the application I draw a blank or find it harder than I thought.

            #495578
            AJFOne23
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              Reaper gives you far more options and tools to work with. I attempted EOF but gave up quickly and never looked back

              #495580
              lifeismusic5
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                Guess Im going to use Reaper then, any advice on getting started with Reaper? (From a charters perspective)

                #495581
                MrPrezident
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                  #495591
                  raynebc
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                    EOF is fine unless you want to author lots of animation events, pro keys or harmonies. If you want to author pro guitar though, you’ll really be doing yourself a disservice if you don’t try something other than Reaper.

                    #495965

                    The pinned thread “list of all authoring stuff” is all you’ll need to get started. About a year ago I used it to get into charting, and while it took an initial dump of time, I got the hang of it eventually. For your first song i would recommend a relatively simple song that you know by heart, so that you don’t have to expend much energy learning the parts. Good luck!

                     

                    Also, Reaper is definitely the way to go. Much easier and more efficient in the long run.

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