UPDATE: Requesting testers for my first custom: “The Best It’s Gonna Get” by Celldweller

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    As I said, I don’t even think the chorus is chords at all, and realism triumphs “overcharting for fun” any day. If you are gonna keep it as chords, then you really should make it all 2-note chords, as it would just be awkward if not. The 3-note chords in the intro chord riff thing can probably stay though.

    #430526
    Farottone
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      I agree that the chorus does seem a bit awkward that way, but I don’t want to have them ALL 2-note chords as I think that would just be too easy/boring/straight-forward to play. What if I compromised and had a mix, using mostly 2-note chords and 3’s for the accent chords? Something like this…

       

      A song is boring or not boring in itself, making it more convoluted doesn’t help. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”> Always keep in mind we’re giving directions for a HMX/C3 kind of release, nobody is stopping you from releasing something adhering to the rules and keeping a hardcore version for yourself. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif”>

      #430544

      Okay, I’ve fixed the intro chords, removed almost all the 3-note chords and cleaned up the sustains. Would you guys like to take a quick look and let me know what you think?

       

      #430546

      Yep looks much better, however I think the chords at 2:38 might possibly be inconsistent with the ones in the choruses, so be sure to double check that they match based on pitches and such in both cases (also if possible make the intro as consistent as possible too if it is inconsistent)

       

      Also, is that a electronic or organic guitar? If electronic, maybe charting some of the synth parts that are not put on keys to guitar might be fun to fill out a bit of those empty spaces?

       

      Also, the chords at 4:33 sounds unsustained to me, and be sure the part right after is guitar, it sorta sounds like bass to me but I could be wrong

      #430548
      I think the chords at 2:38 might possibly be inconsistent with the ones in the choruses, so be sure to double check that they match based on pitches and such in both cases (also if possible make the intro as consistent as possible too if it is inconsistent)

      Is chord consistency really that important with parts that are so separated and in different sounding parts of the song? (Not trying to sound like a smartarse, it’s a genuine question). If they led right into the chorus (or vice versa) then yeah, I’d be all over it. But surely in this case it would be better to have different sections utilise the note range for fun rather than try to match up with chords used on the other side of the song, no? Was HMX this stringent?

       

      Also, is that a electronic or organic guitar? If electronic, maybe charting some of the synth parts that are not put on keys to guitar might be fun to fill out a bit of those empty spaces?

      It’s organic, but filtered and processed to all hell knowing this guy. I had the same thought about charting some of the synth parts. Was kind of on the fence. Do you think I should?

       

      Also, the chords at 4:33 sounds unsustained to me

      You’re right. I went full retard with the sustains on my first pass – missed this in the last one.

       

      and be sure the part right after is guitar, it sorta sounds like bass to me but I could be wrong

      It’s definitely guitar. I listened to all the remix stems individually while charting to try to get everything as accurate as possible. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

      #430549

      Chord consistency can be fudged sometimes if necessary, though considering how minimalistic this part is, it becomes a bit jarring to hear the chords make different sounds on different spots, and it would actually be more fun due to improved immersion to have it be consistent I would say

       

      And well, seeing how it is a P/D/E song I think you could get away with charting some synths to Guitar, just be sure to keep the most important and prominently keys-like stuff to Keys still

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      Chord consistency can be fudged sometimes if necessary, though considering how minimalistic this part is, it becomes a bit jarring to hear the chords make different sounds on different spots, and it would actually be more fun due to improved immersion to have it be consistent I would say

      *sigh* Okay… <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_cheeky.001.gif” /> Just finished my (hopefully) last pass on the guitar and kept all chords as consistent as I could. If any are inconsistent it’s because some of them go higher or lower than the ones in the chorus. But I think I’ve done alright.

       

      And well, seeing how it is a P/D/E song I think you could get away with charting some synths to Guitar, just be sure to keep the most important and prominently keys-like stuff to Keys still

      What’s P/D/E? Regardless, I’m not doing keys. For one, I really just don’t want to. Secondly I wouldn’t even know what to chart to them. Even listening to the synth stem files there is barely anything that would even remotely make sense to chart to keys. There are exactly three piano keys in the entire song at 3:36. The rest is just noise and glitching. The very few things that sounded like notes, I charted to guitar to fill in the empty space as you suggested, and I think it works nicely. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

      #430577

      :aaaaa:

       

      But, but… DAT KEYS <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_frown.gif” />

       

      Okay it would be a fair bit of sustains between the more interesting parts, but still! <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_cheeky.001.gif” />

       

      (Also “P/D/E” is short for “Pop/Dance/Electronic”)

       

      If you end up submitting this to the Show Floor eventually I hope whoever picks it up can help with the Keys

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      :aaaaa:

       

      But, but… DAT KEYS <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_frown.gif” />

       

      Okay it would be a fair bit of sustains between the more interesting parts, but still! <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_cheeky.001.gif” />

      What are you talking about!!!?? <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_cheeky.001.gif” /> What keys?? Where? Help me out here.

       

      You obviously must be a big keys person, because I just don’t hear it. At all. Give me some guidance. Give me some times in the video – SOMETHNG!

       

      Okay here’s an idea. Download this:

       

      http://remixpacks.at.ua/load/zhanry/roc … /25-1-0-25

       

      I’m pretty sure it has EVERYTHING except for the drums. Listen to it all and then tell me exactly what it is you think needs charting and where. Cool?

       

      EDIT: Also, why don’t you help me out with the keys? Seeing as you seem to be so much more attuned to what I’m obviously completely oblivious to. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_biggrin.gif” />

       

      EDIT2: I just tested the vocals in-game after a few drinks and got 99% on Hard and 96% on Expert which is pretty standard for me with songs I know inside-out. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_biggrin.gif” />

      #430611

      I am not gonna spend hours upon hours trying to recreate the part with the remix files, if you want me to help you, you need to post the full stem of all the Synth stuff lined up, or post a project file with it all aligned preferably which also allows me to give feedback on other stuff I might notice

       

      Also don’t call me guy

      #430614
      I am not gonna spend hours upon hours trying to recreate the part with the remix files

      That’s not what I was suggesting at all. You just seemed very enthusiastic about the keys so I thought you might like to listen to a few individual synth stems in case something caught your ear which you could then name for me as an example.

       

      Also don’t call me guy

      Right. Fixed. Sorry.

      #430615

      Ah I see, well it is hard to really pinpoint it when split up, so again a full stem or a project with it all lined up perfectly would be cool if possible

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