[Farottone]

I see. I assume I still put markers at subsequent downbeats? This is probably what got me off track in the first place.

 

I think I will take another whack at it now that I know this, and post a new project for review after that.

 

Thanks for the help!

 

No, I don’t think that threw you off as I said. All went fine until you started drifing by 60ms per measure. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif”>

[Kemiroch]

 

No, I don’t think that threw you off as I said. All went fine until you started drifing by 60ms per measure. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif” />

Well here is my newest attempt:

 

http://www.mediafire.com/download/c45f0puz9zdnbzr/KemHaleStopTx.rar

 

I only got to measure 7 this time before a missing peak destroyed my faith in humanity.

 

Maybe tempo mapping is just beyond my ability to understand ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_frown.gif” />

[Farottone]

Are you using the metronome or not?

[Kemiroch]

Are you using the metronome or not?

This particular attempt was not made using the metronome.

[Kemiroch]

So, I have come to the conclusion that this particular song is too difficult for me to tempo map at my current ‘skill’ level, so I have put it on hiatus for the moment.

 

In the meantime I’m going to try practicing with simpler songs to see if I can get that magic ‘Oh yeah!’ moment where I start to understand it. In that vein, here is my newest attempt:

 

Project

 

I am about halfway through it, and it seems to be going pretty smoothly (which terrifies me). I am using the metronome this time.

 

Something doesn’t ‘feel’ quite right even though it ‘seems’ to be going ok, so I figured I had better post it before I get too far, in case I have fudged it somehow.

 

EDIT: Here is the whole map:

 

RPP

 

It gets lost near the end (or at least that is where I noticed it). Not sure why.

[Ollie]

You’re right, this sould be easier since the beat is pretty straightforward and easier to read.

Quick remarks :

– Your 2 first bars have a different tempo (98 bpm) from the third bar (110bpm) : not good !
– The tempo is 25% faster than what you have mapped, give or take (between 135-140bpm). You can see that the snare hits and drum kicks are not properly aligned in your bars (ie don’t fall on beats or half-beats or quarter-beats…).

Each bar (at least at the begininng) should go :
S S S k S k
1 and 2 and 3 and 4

and the fifth snare hit should be the beginning of a new bar (instead of the sixth).

[Kemiroch]

OK, I get ya. I noticed that basic drum pattern and figured it should map around those, but I must not have been reading the waveform properly. I will take another look at it.

 

Thanks!

[Kemiroch]

OK I went back and checked it again:

 

Project 2

 

It went much better. I think missing that fifth snare the first time was what messed me up. It actually feels right this time.

 

It’s only partially done because something came up while I was working on it, but I wanted to post it just to make sure I’m really on the right track.

[Ollie]

Yup, that’s the idea. Only 150 bars left to map ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

[samjjones]

I don’t know if this is relevant or not, but here’s another explanation of tempo mapping:

 

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=14737

[Farottone]

Why using that method when using the Q shortcut gives the same result without having to transform anything and without having to clutter the entire tempo track with markers? Genuine question, I’m curious to know.

 

One thing I do NOT advise is tempo mapping in real time: it’s not even remotely accurate enough for a tight tempo map, just imagine the lag between you hearing a sound and pressing the button, plus the delay between when the sound occurs and when Reaper plays it back. Tempo mapping is 75% eye and 25% ears, use the waveforms and accurately place your markers on the peaks. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”>

[Kemiroch]

Yeah I use the waveform mostly. I listen when there are a couple of peaks right next to each other and I’m trying to pick out which is the right one ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

 

The main problem I have (out of lots of problems) is which peak out of the whole ‘collection’ of peaks that makes up one drum hit is the one I’m supposed to use.

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