Trouble With Too Fast Tempo’s in Reaper/Magma
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August 10, 2015 at 9:05 pm #392709
Sometimes when I’m converting a FoF song in Reaper, there will be a tempo above 300bpm that Magma won’t accept. Is there any way to slow down the tempo while keeping the chart and notes in the correct place? I’ve had to give up on so many converts because of this and I’d like to just have a way to fix it. Thanks.
August 11, 2015 at 1:18 am #452463The current hotfixes for EOF would let you use a function to convert that tempo change into a time signature change, and automatically apply the tempo that would be needed to keep the beat the same length (in seconds).
August 11, 2015 at 1:56 am #452466The current hotfixes for EOF would let you use a function to convert that tempo change into a time signature change, and automatically apply the tempo that would be needed to keep the beat the same length (in seconds).Would you mind explaining a little more? Which version of EOF should I download? What are hotfixes and how can I use them? Thanks for the reply.
August 11, 2015 at 2:13 am #452469Well I don’t even know what EOF is, but basically the way you fix it is by replacing the high bpm with a time signature change instead. The reason they set the tempo so high is so that the remain properly aligned, but we can do the same thing by adjusting time signatures.
August 11, 2015 at 2:27 am #452470Well I don’t even know what EOF is, but basically the way you fix it is by replacing the high bpm with a time signature change instead. The reason they set the tempo so high is so that the remain properly aligned, but we can do the same thing by adjusting time signatures.I’ve tried doing this and I can’t figure out how to calculate the BPM/Time signatures. EOF is another program for charting I believe but I’m not familiar with the program itself, although now it seems like I need to learn it
August 11, 2015 at 6:25 am #452475The latest binaries for EOF are maintained here:
http://ignition.customsforge.com/eof
Hotfixes are easy to use, just unzip the latest release candidate someplace of your liking, and unzip a hotfix (usually just the new eof.exe file) over it.
There’s a new “accurate TS” project option for handling time signatures in Song>Properties. This is enabled automatically for new imports or projects. When it is enabled, the time signature is taken into account when calculating the tempo changes. When enabled, you can also use the “BPM>Time signature>Convert” function to set a time signature on the selected beat marker and EOF will recalculate the appropriate tempo to leave the beat timings intact.
If a FoF chart suddenly speeds up the tempo by an extreme amount (ie. going from 150BPM to around 300BPM), it’s likely that the song uses a time signature change at that point. Say it goes from #/4 to #/8, this means that instead of a quarter note being one beat, an eighth note is now one beat (beats are now twice as quick). You can have EOF convert that beat’s tempo change to a time signature change and the tempo will be adjusted so that the beat ends at the same position and the chart will keep whatever sync it has.
August 11, 2015 at 6:35 pm #452496The latest binaries for EOF are maintained here:http://ignition.customsforge.com/eof
Hotfixes are easy to use, just unzip the latest release candidate someplace of your liking, and unzip a hotfix (usually just the new eof.exe file) over it.
There’s a new “accurate TS” project option for handling time signatures in Song>Properties. This is enabled automatically for new imports or projects. When it is enabled, the time signature is taken into account when calculating the tempo changes. When enabled, you can also use the “BPM>Time signature>Convert” function to set a time signature on the selected beat marker and EOF will recalculate the appropriate tempo to leave the beat timings intact.
If a FoF chart suddenly speeds up the tempo by an extreme amount (ie. going from 150BPM to around 300BPM), it’s likely that the song uses a time signature change at that point. Say it goes from #/4 to #/8, this means that instead of a quarter note being one beat, an eighth note is now one beat (beats are now twice as quick). You can have EOF convert that beat’s tempo change to a time signature change and the tempo will be adjusted so that the beat ends at the same position and the chart will keep whatever sync it has.
I followed those instructions but the changes aren’t taking place when I open the new Midi in Reaper, any more advice? Thanks for the help man
August 11, 2015 at 8:16 pm #452505After doing that, you have to save the EOF project and use the new MIDI file that EOF created. If you find that the new MIDI file doesn’t appear as expected in Reaper, please send me a link to the MIDI file so I can check it out.
August 11, 2015 at 11:10 pm #452515Or you could halve the amount of notes in the BEAT track and see if Magma will accept it then, as the BEAT track is used along with the actual BPM ingame to determine the tempo and time signature of a song
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