The 1/2-Starring Wall of Fame

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  • #479686
    Freewaymad
    Participant

      I was talking about the other 1 star I had, The Stage by Avenged Sevenfold.

      I stand corrected.

       

       

      Technically you’re pointing out how the chart is and vocals are off. I thought you clearly said “you’ve tested them” and they’re “okay” according to you. “Poorly charted” goes for the chart by a lot besides the fix on drums which I really appreciate. Also charting songs in the same way that you’ve done it before basically brings down the point of even trying to be a well made custom. The Judas Priest custom was nothing different on instruments. I feel like you actually haven’t tested your custom at all and just come with the fact saying “Oh it’s fine, nothing wrong with at all.”

       

       

       

      Also don’t try to come out with the fact that you’ve put hard work on it and it should be at least one point ahead for that because it won’t. It doesn’t matter if you put hard work into the custom, it depends on the quality of the song of it even being on time and being well made of a chart.

      Okay, clearly you don’t know what you are talking about. Stop bullshitting. I’M DONE WITH YOU!

      #479687
      Anonymous

        Okay, let me give some constructive criticism:

         

        The guitar chart is very off time with the song. The 4-note chords, which is a problem in itself, but I can understand why you did that, but either way, they are too slow with the song, if you move the last 3 back a bit more, it would work a bit better. Also, you charted the violin on guitar, when there was still guitar in the background. That could be put on keys, and if you don’t want to, you don’t need to put it at all, especially because there is a guitar already playing. There is also a trill, where a trill lane would help. Also in the both there are some missing notes, and incorrectly placed notes, as well as some overcharted and incorrectly forced notes. The vocals chart is just straight up incorrect as well, here’s this to show as well:

         

        I will not lie though, the updated version had a better drums, but there is still improvement needed to make it a great chart. I do appreciate your attempt, but it needs to be fixed.

        #479688
        Freewaymad
        Participant

          Okay, let me give some constructive criticism:

           

          The guitar chart is very off time with the song. The 4-note chords, which is a problem in itself, but I can understand why you did that, but either way, they are too slow with the song, if you move the last 3 back a bit more, it would work a bit better. Also, you charted the violin on guitar, when there was still guitar in the background. That could be put on keys, and if you don’t want to, you don’t need to put it at all, especially because there is a guitar already playing. There is also a trill, where a trill lane would help. Also in the both there are some missing notes, and incorrectly placed notes, as well as some overcharted and incorrectly forced notes. The vocals chart is just straight up incorrect as well, here’s this to show as well:

           

          I will not lie though, the updated version had a better drums, but there is still improvement needed to make it a great chart. I do appreciate your attempt, but it needs to be fixed.

          There is no violin in this. You clearly have no clue. I AM DONE! THIS NOT FUN!

          #479689
          Anonymous

            There is no violin in this. You clearly have no clue. I AM DONE! THIS NOT FUN!

            Well, thanks for reading over my criticism and pulling ONE thing out, good to know I wasted my time. (btw that is violin)

            #479690
            apricot
            Participant

              I’m already guessing you didn’t even watch the video to show how your points: “poorly charted” and “vocals off” were just completely invalid because you immediately responded the second Meta responded

              #479691
              TrojanNemo
              Participant

                There is no violin in this. You clearly have no clue. I AM DONE! THIS NOT FUN!

                How many times are you going to post that you are done before you are actually done? Just wondering.

                 

                Guys. Don’t 1 star his songs. Just ignore him and his songs. Fixes the issue for everyone.

                 

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                #479692
                Freewaymad
                Participant

                  Well, thanks for reading over my criticism and pulling ONE thing out, good to know I wasted my time. (btw that is violin)

                  Read this:

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamboat_Annie

                  Under “Personnel”… Holy Shit, no violin. DONE! FOR REAL!

                  #479693
                  Anonymous

                    How many times are you going to post that you are done before you are actually done? Just wondering.

                     

                    Guys. Don’t 1 star his songs. Just ignore him and his songs. Fixes the issue for everyone.

                     

                    Sent from my LG V10 using Tapatalk

                     

                    Alright, will do.

                    #479695
                    apricot
                    Participant

                      Read this:

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamboat_Annie

                      Under “Personnel”… Holy Shit, no violin. DONE! FOR REAL!

                      First of all, it’s not a guitar either.

                       

                      Second, you’re basically trying to prove your point with Wikipedia, which is one of the most unreliable sources to exist on the internet. There is some orchestral sounding in the track which you’ve put on guitar and is not accurate. It should be on keys. I’m honestly just wasting my time having to argue about this custom so I’m not even gonna try to point out facts about this chart being bad because the chart it explains itself.

                      #479696

                      can someone please lock this thread already?

                      this is no good for anyone….

                      #479697
                      TrojanNemo
                      Participant

                        I disagree. We have learned some people are averse to criticism and don’t have a whole lot of manners.

                         

                        Besides, this thread was started by an administrator. Nobody but him will close it.

                         

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                        #479706
                        Farottone
                        Keymaster

                          I think it’s pretty evident from the list who downvoted for what. This thread is not here to judge feedback, it’s here to expose bullying and votes made to punish the author for picking a song or similar. If you believe, after playing the song, that the feedback your giving is legitimate, no one is suggesting we punish you: you are free to give very negative feedback if you believe is warranted. We want to put an end to people doing something dishonest, we can’t and won’t police judgment calls, for obvious reasons.

                           

                          Let me give some more insight on the process though. Our database is more than 12,000 songs strong, roughly 8,000 of those are customs. With so many songs, and so few people taking the time to vote, basically the perception of a song is delivered by a single vote. No vote is the norm. 1 starring a song singles that song out. Maybe the song deserves it, or maybe it’s just the same quality as other hundreds of unrated songs but it stands out because somebody voted on it. Nothing we or you can do about it, really, just something to consider.

                           

                          On the other hand, remember that authors are what make this place special. They work hard on doing full band songs and it might surprise you but most if not all of them don’t even play all the instruments on their own: they know how to author for them and author them even if they don’t enjoy those charts. Then you take a look at the DB and full band songs getting 2/3/400 views, from solid authors who deliver good charts, don’t get a single comment. If you are a “taker” (meaning you don’t author but download), you need to understand that there is no more content if people don’t thank the “makers”. If you see a bad song it’s your prerogative to give a negative vote, but if you only take your time to say negative, although legitimate, things and not enough good things, or no good things at all, you’re gonna end up with authors who will just keep the songs to themselves.

                          #479711

                          i whole heartedly agree with everything you said in these 3 paragraphs.

                          in fact that should be pinned to custom song discussion and database as a reminder

                           

                          people who rate peoples songs at one star on everything they make is just that bullying.

                          it should be dealt with swiftly and privately and obviously by ban

                           

                          when a song has multiple 1 stars there has to be some sort or legitimate reason

                          who knows maybe it was the aliens. but people being in fear to vote a 1 or 2 star for a song being bad to them

                          is no good either.

                           

                          i feel none of this should be made public.

                          but that is what i feel alone for myself

                          #479723
                          Bansheeflyer
                          Moderator

                            Damn, a little late to this party. Oh well, here’s my two cents (or multiple over-worded rants such as this sentence here, take your pick).

                             

                            First I feel I should ask if we’re coming down on people who 1/2-star songs, why ignore those who auto five-star? Before you respond yes, I am aware this is to deter bullying and rating five stars isn’t nearly as bad as rating 1/2 stars. But if the purpose of this is to prevent voting on a song based on opinion of author/artist/song/anything except the chart itself, then why should we let the auto five-stars for the same reasons go free? Again, I know it’s to deter bullying but honestly if we want to make this a system truly dedicated simply to the chart itself then the five-stars should be looked at as well.

                             

                            Part of the first paragraph is this is why I strongly suggest people rate my songs based on quality of chart, not because “Oh hey I like that song”. I love seeing five-star ratings on my songs as much as the next guy and I really do appreciate the enthusiasm but it doesn’t tell me how well the chart is. Even when I don’t get five stars I never get any criticism. “Gimme All Your Lovin'” and “Sharp Dressed Man” really worried me because those got four stars and they are arguably two of ZZ Top’s most popular work. I don’t really mind so much but it bugged me nobody came forward to explain why they thought the songs deserved that rating despite me requesting so on my thread. I cannot fix what I don’t know is broken.

                             

                            And I probably shouldn’t be poking this hornet nest but respectfully if enough people are rating a specific song low with multiple commented complaints, then maybe there actually might be a problem with the chart no matter how much you see otherwise. Ultimately it is your chart but if that many people have a problem with it then it wouldn’t hurt to re-evaluate it.

                             

                            Of course there’s some difficulty with rating because I don’t want to be unfair. I have never one-starred anything but there are some songs that I don’t agree on the charting with. For example, one particular song has violins and guitar played at the same time throughout the entire song but the author decided to chart both to guitar and leave keys out entirely. As a result I was actually kinda disappointed and didn’t end up downloading the song because I felt that was not a good way to chart it (especially as a keys player), but it would’ve been unfair to rate it 1/2 stars because of that as the chart itself might be perfectly good.

                             

                            With that in mind however I don’t know if I’ve actually rated any songs I’ve downloaded. I should probably utilize that more often. Though I guess I haven’t actually downloaded many songs recently for a number of reasons but that’s another set of paragraphs for another time.

                             

                            Yeah, a system to require comments would be nice but unless I missed something it sounds like either that won’t be implemented or the suggestion will be ignored entirely. Though seeing as nothing has been done to the database page in some time (not a criticism – I am aware the programmers are very busy) that will be unlikely to happen.

                             

                            I dunno if I agree with the wall of shame or not but I suppose it’s the best way to deter this kind of bullying in the meantime.

                            #479725
                            Farottone
                            Keymaster

                              First I feel I should ask if we’re coming down on people who 1/2-star songs, why ignore those who auto five-star?

                               

                              Because they are not trying to hurt the author to the point of risking losing them because they give up on what they do? I mean, just a thought…

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