The 1/2-Starring Wall of Fame
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Never saw this thread, lol, but I’ll go ahead and give my reasoning for this 1 star
The original version was just really poorly made imo. The guitar chart was off sync and even overcharted in some places, drums was a mess with weird crossovers, and vocals was completely off, especially in the verses.
I will admit that the chart has been improved , but is still in a poor condition
(Also note there are a LOT of 1 stars just for that one custom alone)
EDIT: Removed my Stage 1 star. I was originally mad that it was only guitar. Sorry about that.
I got a good reason for Magic Man however.
As Rocker1999 said, the drum chart is very inaccurate with rolls and fills, the guitar chart is missing a trill lane with also some unforgivable mistakes in parts of the song, and the vocals hasn’t even improved since v1 of the custom which has some incorrect pitches as if it was Fat Kid all over again, horribly forced notes on guitar chart, everything else really is fine besides the vocals, guitar, and drums. Possibly keys too if I’m not mistaken but the chart really needs a good fix up.
Honestly for the beard customs I don’t know why they were one starred because I was not on at the time but I’ll get to changing my password just incase.
Apology for the beard conversion 1 stars but the Magic man one should stay at 1 star for how severely broken it is.
I agree with SynthStreaks’ reasoning for Magic Man, also the fact that the author denied his chart was flawed after a lot of constructive criticism. Four note chords on guitar? That’s just a “charting style.” Come on bro.
Basically my entire reasoning for why I gave Magic Man a one star.
But for real, there’s a reason why one stars exist.
Charts can be poorly charted, and it needs to be pointed out, and when constructive criticism is given, it can give more motivation to get better. If you think one starring is unfair for someone because they put a lot of work into it, it’s like when you rate an album. If an album is terrible, like lets say a Blood on the Dance Floor, you don’t give it higher than a one because effort was put into making the album, you give it a one because the quality is bad, and that it’s not something you want to return to. And while somethings rated on here are unfair ratings, something like the Magic Man chart needs to be criticized.
I know I’m being a bit egocentric on this but…
Why Hotline Bling?
Possibly because the insanely fast rolls that aren’t under lanes (basically on my mind part 2, but the rolls last throughout the whole song), and also the weird tempo mapping in the bridge where the keys solo was. But even then, that’s not really worthy of a one.
EDIT: Thought about it and it’s not weirdly tempo mapped, just the keys chart had weirdly placed notes.
Basically my entire reasoning for why I gave Magic Man a one star.
But for real, there’s a reason why one stars exist.
Charts can be poorly charted, and it needs to be pointed out, and when constructive criticism is given, it can give more motivation to get better. If you think one starring is unfair for someone because they put a lot of work into it, it’s like when you rate an album. If an album is terrible, like lets say a Blood on the Dance Floor, you don’t give it higher than a one because effort was put into making the album, you give it a one because the quality is bad, and that it’s not something you want to return to. And while somethings rated on here are unfair ratings, something like the Magic Man chart needs to be criticized.
Just as long as you contact the charter with your criticism first. One starring without no feedback is pointless. It doesn’t help the author improve for the future and is just a huge downer.
Just as long as you contact the charter with your criticism first. One starring without no feedback is pointless. It doesn’t help the author improve for the future and is just a huge downer.
By the time I rated the custom, plenty of criticism was already made for it, and I felt they had everything brought up that I wanted to say, that’s why I didn’t give any criticism, it would be redundant.
Possibly because the insanely fast rolls that aren’t under lanes (basically on my mind part 2, but the rolls last throughout the whole song), and also the weird tempo mapping in the bridge where the keys solo was. But even then, that’s not really worthy of a one.
EDIT: Thought about it and it’s not weirdly tempo mapped, just the keys chart had weirdly placed notes.
The rolls at the end were a problem with me too. By the time I made it, I didn’t have a drum kit to test it all. And while I’m gonna get a pro drum update for it, the hi-hat rolls were charted as what would seem as what I like to call “humanly playable”, and they were so fast I couldn’t figure out a speed for it
Okay… here I go; defending myself again.
Never saw this thread, lol, but I’ll go ahead and give my reasoning for this 1 star
The original version was just really poorly made imo. The guitar chart was off sync and even overcharted in some places, drums was a mess with weird crossovers, and vocals was completely off, especially in the verses.
I will admit that the chart has been improved , but is still in a poor condition
(Also note there are a LOT of 1 stars just for that one custom alone)
EDIT: Removed my Stage 1 star. I was originally mad that it was only guitar. Sorry about that.
It is okay to have your opinion, but don’t bullshit everyone and say that this was made originally with guitar only and that was why you 1-starred it. I have never made anything less than a full band custom. I do appreciate the removal of the 1-star, though.
I have no idea why the four beard songs were 1 starred because I wasn’t even near this website that time. Probably someone got into my account so I’ll probably go change the password.
I got a good reason for Magic Man however.
As Rocker1999 said, the drum chart is very inaccurate with rolls and fills, the guitar chart is missing a trill lane with also some unforgivable mistakes in parts of the song, and the vocals hasn’t even improved since v1 of the custom which has some incorrect pitches as if it was Fat Kid all over again, horribly forced notes on guitar chart, everything else really is fine besides the vocals, guitar, and drums. Possibly keys too if I’m not mistaken but the chart really needs a good fix up.
Honestly for the beard customs I don’t know why they were one starred because I was not on at the time but I’ll get to changing my password just incase.
Apology for the beard conversion 1 stars but the Magic man one should stay at 1 star for how severely broken it is.
You to are entitled to your opinion.
I’m on this list three times. In my opinion, two of the three are warranted, but I’ve only kept one 1* review.
Magic Man – This chart is just all around inaccurate and breaks several charting guidelines. I tried to give the author criticism, but they brushed it off as their own “style” of charting.
Inca Roads – A more accurate chart of this song exists, so I see no reason to play this version. Granted, it’s not on C3, so I can see why the 1* could have been unwarranted. However, chartwise there is an issue; much like other Frank Zappa customs, some guitar sections are unfair to play because of excessive forced strums. I’ve changed my rating to a neutral 3* review.
Keep it Greasey – I never even played this, not sure why I gave it 1*. Sorry about that; changed now to a neutral 3* review.
As for you, the only you criticized was that it was charted with 4-note chords. You never said anything more until now.
Basically my entire reasoning for why I gave Magic Man a one star.
But for real, there’s a reason why one stars exist.
Charts can be poorly charted, and it needs to be pointed out, and when constructive criticism is given, it can give more motivation to get better. If you think one starring is unfair for someone because they put a lot of work into it, it’s like when you rate an album. If an album is terrible, like lets say a Blood on the Dance Floor, you don’t give it higher than a one because effort was put into making the album, you give it a one because the quality is bad, and that it’s not something you want to return to. And while somethings rated on here are unfair ratings, something like the Magic Man chart needs to be criticized.
You never said anything until now.
I agree with SynthStreaks’ reasoning for Magic Man, also the fact that the author denied his chart was flawed after a lot of constructive criticism. Four note chords on guitar? That’s just a “charting style.” Come on bro.
But yeah I mean why have the option to give 1-star ratings if it’s frowned upon to use them? They should be used when a chart is so poorly done that it just feels wrong the entire time. It’s unfortunate because I’m sure the charters put many hours of work into their customs (believe me I would know), but you also gotta give criticism where its due. Of course, a comment would be very helpful (and frankly should be required) to accompany any 1-star rating.
You also never said a word until now.
Two of you are only bitching because of the 4-note chords. Guess what, until the rules for charting here at C3 are changed, I’m not changing the way I chart. I understand 4-note chords are not for everyone and that’s okay. As for you that say it’s “poorly charted”, “over charted”, “horribly forced”, “vocals off”, or in poor condition. I totally disagree with you. Sorry to sound like a dick, but this song was charted in the same manner as I always do with the other songs I have done. I don’t have these issues you all are saying. As far as constructive criticism goes (which I can take), I disagree with you five. I think you couldn’t handle a real challenge in the game and it pissed you off. So to you five, I will say again you are entitled to your opinions, but I disagree. Happy new year and I hope you will learn what “constructive criticism” really is.
It is okay to have your opinion, but don’t bullshit everyone and say that this was made originally with guitar only and that was why you 1-starred it. I have never made anything less than a full band custom. I do appreciate the removal of the 1-star, though.
I’m pretty sure by his “Stage 1-star”, he was referring to his one star vote on the A7x’s The Stage posted by beard216, which is G only.
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_cheeky.001.gif” />I cannot believe the songs (and authors) that have received 1-2 stars. This is ridiculous how juvenile and entitled people are acting. Somehow they are forgetting that these songs take a lot of time and yet are shared to us for FREE!
Just because YOU don’t like HOW the custom author charted a song doesn’t entitle you to give it a 1 star. Your lack of appreciation is a real downer and will lead people to not share any of their hard work with us.
Can you guys be a little more appreciative?
By the way, Freewaymad, I LOVED the guitar chart on Magic Man and although I do not play drums I appreciate that you took the time to make updates that YOU felt were necessary.
Thanks to all the customs authors on this forum! Because of you all, we have so many awesome songs to share with our family and friends! We have a blast and really that is the whole point!
Two of you are only bitching because of the 4-note chords. Guess what, until the rules for charting here at C3 are changed, I’m not changing the way I chart. I understand 4-note chords are not for everyone and that’s okay. As for you that say it’s “poorly charted”, “over charted”, “horribly forced”, “vocals off”, or in poor condition. I totally disagree with you. Sorry to sound like a dick, but this song was charted in the same manner as I always do with the other songs I have done. I don’t have these issues you all are saying. As far as constructive criticism goes (which I can take), I disagree with you five. I think you couldn’t handle a real challenge in the game and it pissed you off. So to you five, I will say again you are entitled to your opinions, but I disagree. Happy new year and I hope you will learn what “constructive criticism” really is.
Here’s my constructive criticism of 4-note chords. Rock Band has never to this point included them, and as thus any custom that uses them instantly breaks the immersion of “I’m playing a song on Rock Band!” and gives more of a feeling of “I may as well be playing GH3 on PC.” They aren’t particularly fun for a lot of folks, and gives a sort of sense of “artificial challenge” (as in, taking a part that shouldn’t be as hard and making it harder by making it feel less natural). As thus, I feel people have every right to be upset over 4-note chords being present in the chart, especially for a big song like Magic Man where there’s no charts without said 4-note chord.
It’s still ultimately up to you whether or not you want to include them. Maybe you find them more fun than if they were 3- or 2-note chords. Maybe it’s technically more accurate, even if it steps outside of authoring guidelines. Still, that doesn’t excuse any criticism of 4-note chords as “just bitching,” it’s still constructive criticism.
Also, RE: Appreciation for work and the lack of rights to criticize, I know every author works intensely hard on every custom they build. However, that doesn’t mean they should be free of criticism. If I release a custom that was horribly broken in some way, and someone rated 1-star and told me what was broken, my immediate response is to go fix the thing as soon as possible. There are times where I’ve been told that my chart was inaccurate where I didn’t agree (for example, someone once told me the drums in “Cigaro” by System of a Down were undercharted, and the blast beats had 32nd kicks in them, but to this day I don’t hear them; and there’s also all the complaints I got over “Your Best Nightmare” being fucked and artificially hard on drums because of supposed open hi-hats being on blue, when actually it’s ride cymbals on blue and hi-hats on yellow), but I at least appreciate the feedback, and send a reply as to why I feel the chart is accurate, without going on to name-call. And there are other times where I was told the chart was broken and I went to fix it (for example, the lyrics in “Eulogy” by Tool were originally inaccurate, and the drums had a badly quantized fill, and while it took me forever, I did fix those things).
What I’m trying to say is, yes, appreciate the time taken to author these customs, and take it into consideration. But also don’t be afraid to give back constructive criticism, as long as it’s actually constructive, and not destructive.
It is okay to have your opinion, but don’t bullshit everyone and say that this was made originally with guitar only and that was why you 1-starred it. I have never made anything less than a full band custom. I do appreciate the removal of the 1-star, though.
I was talking about the other 1 star I had, The Stage by Avenged Sevenfold.
Here’s my constructive criticism of 4-note chords. Rock Band has never to this point included them, and as thus any custom that uses them instantly breaks the immersion of “I’m playing a song on Rock Band!” and gives more of a feeling of “I may as well be playing GH3 on PC.” They aren’t particularly fun for a lot of folks, and gives a sort of sense of “artificial challenge” (as in, taking a part that shouldn’t be as hard and making it harder by making it feel less natural). As thus, I feel people have every right to be upset over 4-note chords being present in the chart, especially for a big song like Magic Man where there’s no charts without said 4-note chord.
It’s still ultimately up to you whether or not you want to include them. Maybe you find them more fun than if they were 3- or 2-note chords. Maybe it’s technically more accurate, even if it steps outside of authoring guidelines. Still, that doesn’t excuse any criticism of 4-note chords as “just bitching,” it’s still constructive criticism.
I appreciate your opinion, but I still stand by what I said.
I cannot believe the songs (and authors) that have received 1-2 stars. This is ridiculous how juvenile and entitled people are acting. Somehow they are forgetting that these songs take a lot of time and yet are shared to us for FREE!
Just because YOU don’t like HOW the custom author charted a song doesn’t entitle you to give it a 1 star. Your lack of appreciation is a real downer and will lead people to not share any of their hard work with us.
Can you guys be a little more appreciative?
By the way, Freewaymad, I LOVED the guitar chart on Magic Man and although I do not play drums I appreciate that you took the time to make updates that YOU felt were necessary.
Thanks to all the customs authors on this forum! Because of you all, we have so many awesome songs to share with our family and friends! We have a blast and really that is the whole point!
Thank you. Perfectly said.
I just want to add…
I agree that constructive criticism is good.
It’s the 1-2 starring of fun playable songs that I feel comes across as ungrateful.
As for you that say it’s “poorly charted”, “over charted”, “horribly forced”, “vocals off”, or in poor condition. I totally disagree with you. Sorry to sound like a dick, but this song was charted in the same manner as I always do with the other songs I have done.
Technically you’re pointing out how the chart is and vocals are off. I thought you clearly said “you’ve tested them” and they’re “okay” according to you. “Poorly charted” goes for the chart by a lot besides the fix on drums which I really appreciate. Also charting songs in the same way that you’ve done it before basically brings down the point of even trying to be a well made custom. The Judas Priest custom was nothing different on instruments. I feel like you actually haven’t tested your custom at all and just come with the fact saying “Oh it’s fine, nothing wrong with at all.”
Somehow they are forgetting that these songs take a lot of time and yet are shared to us for FREE!
Just because YOU don’t like HOW the custom author charted a song doesn’t entitle you to give it a 1 star.
Can you guys be a little more appreciative?
Also don’t try to come out with the fact that you’ve put hard work on it and it should be at least one point ahead for that because it won’t. It doesn’t matter if you put hard work into the custom, it depends on the quality of the song of it even being on time and being well made of a chart.
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