Sideshow’s Customs (7/14/18) Ozzy Osbourne “Shot in the Dark”!

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  • #428783
    bsbloom
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    That sounds ominous – the sync problem occurs, on your video, right after the tempo problem at measure 55, which I thought was fixed. I have a slightly different version than Sideshow, and just tried it again, and could see no problems. Please take a look at this, and see if the sync problem arises. If so, it is back to the drawing board. If not, then we’ll go with this rbcon.

     

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0FHnxeCnFIjNlJ6dDdjUjZ5T1k/edit

    #428784
    Farottone
    Keymaster

    10:08 minutes, and not a single time signature change. Impressive! :excited: :dance:

     

    I’m not sure no time signature changes is a positive. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif”>

    #428785
    iammax
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    That sounds ominous – the sync problem occurs, on your video, right after the tempo problem at measure 55, which I thought was fixed. I have a slightly different version than Sideshow, and just tried it again, and could see no problems. Please take a look at this, and see if the sync problem arises. If so, it is back to the drawing board. If not, then we’ll go with this rbcon.

     

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0FHnxeCnFIjNlJ6dDdjUjZ5T1k/edit

     

    I’ll try it when I get back home; I’ll let you know the results. Thanks

    #428788
    iammax
    Member
    That sounds ominous – the sync problem occurs, on your video, right after the tempo problem at measure 55, which I thought was fixed. I have a slightly different version than Sideshow, and just tried it again, and could see no problems. Please take a look at this, and see if the sync problem arises. If so, it is back to the drawing board. If not, then we’ll go with this rbcon.

     

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0FHnxeCnFIjNlJ6dDdjUjZ5T1k/edit

     

    I’ll try it when I get back home; I’ll let you know the results. Thanks

     

     

    OK, I played this one for about 6 or 7 minutes; the syncing of the audio to the lines on the track seems to be fine up until I stopped. However all the notes are off the lines slightly, by about maybe 1/16th of a beat per note.

     

    I noticed your alternate version is 2x, I should mention the original off-sync one I played was the 1x pedal version, I don’t know if the original 2x pedal verison has the same issues.

    #428794
    Sideshow
    Participant

    I could take all of the charts and move it a 1/16th backwards after the 55 measure but then the notes wouldnt be aligned to the grid. How about moving the song audio file a little bit backwards?

    #428795
    AJFOne23
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    10:08 minutes, and not a single time signature change. Impressive! :excited: :dance:

     

    That isn’t true in the least. The intro is free time. There are other sections as well. I should know I tempo mapped it <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_cheeky.001.gif” />

    #428796
    Dash Riprock
    Participant

    And thank you for doing so. I love this song. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

     

    I’m certainly not here for an argument. I appreciate your contributions.

     

    But the tempo map that I extracted continued no sig changes what-so-ever. 4/4 throughout. :raise:

     

    I’m not complaining, either. Not in the least. I still think it’s am impressive achievement, despite the brute force approach (or perhaps because of it).

     

    Who cares if it’s in-elegant. It works! <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

    #428797
    AJFOne23
    Participant

    Reaper doesn’t allow time signature changes so we chart everything in 4/4. I learned that the hard way during my first chart which had to be re done way too many times. Glad you enjoyed it

    #428798
    Dash Riprock
    Participant
    Reaper doesn’t allow time signature changes …

     

    Now, I know that this is not true.

     

    My charting experience may be negligible, but I’ve already authored songs that utilize time signatures other than 4/4.

    #428799
    AJFOne23
    Participant
    Reaper doesn’t allow time signature changes …

    :aaaaa:

     

    Now, I know that this is not true.

     

    My charting experience may be negligible, but I’ve already authored songs that utilize time signatures other than 4/4.

     

    Well you can use them but when you try to them to pass in Magma it doesn’t work. Sideshow and Farottone clued me in to not using them

    #428801
    Dash Riprock
    Participant

    I’m not about to contradict those whose experience far outweighs mine, but…

     

    (there’s alway a but, isn’t there?) <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif” />

     

    I didn’t have an issue with Magma rejecting TS changes. The aforementioned songs compiled and played quite successfully.

     

    What can I say? :confused:

    #428806
    Exxucus
    Member

    Whelp. I’ve got a new lifetime co-op goal! Thank you so much!

    #428807
    Farottone
    Keymaster

    Well you can use them but when you try to them to pass in Magma it doesn’t work. Sideshow and Farottone clued me in to not using them

     

    I surely did not. And they work fine in Magma. You just need to place them correctly.

    #428808
    bsbloom
    Participant

    Re time signatures that aren’t 4/4 – I’ve had some mixed experiences. I just charted a song that was 5/4 most of the way, but changed to 4/4 during the drum solo. I had all sorts of trouble with syncing after magma – so I changed the drum solo section back to 5/4 and it worked fine.

     

    The tempo problems in both Gates of Delirium and 12 Step occurred right at a time signature change. To fix up Gates, I deleted all the tempo markers until the bad spot, changed that section to 4/4, and put in new tempo markers, then moved the notes around to fit, as needed. But the chart in unchanged from measure 23 on, and includes many, many changes.

    #428809
    Farottone
    Keymaster

    To be clear, Reaper has some issues with time signatures (not Magma, which accepts anything you thrown at it in that regard, it will at worst mess up the way Magma reports the measures where issues occur), but it’s mainly due to bad editing. Time signature changes must be applied exactly on the beat and can not occur before the end of the measure.

     

    With that said, Reaper has a bug that sometimes messes up measures if you change the tempo map after time signature markers have been placed. But the issue lies solely with Reaper, what you see unsynced in game is just the result of Reaper chewing up measures.

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