[Ollie]

Hi everyone

 

Pleasure to be here, I’m hoping to contribute somewhere down the road if I reach your quality standards. For too long, I’ve played with LeFluffie to crack con files open to harmonize my songs names and covers instead of charting songs, but these days are over thanks to you guys.

 

Released :

-Rebellion (Lies) by Arcade Fire

 

Almost ready :

– 6-songs U2 pack

– 6-songs Noir Désir pack (a French Rock band). I don’t know how much interest it will garner here = 95% done

 

Projects:

 

– U2 : New Year’s Day to add to the 6-pack

– The Verve : Bittersweet Symphony

– Our Lady Peace : Superman’s Dead

– Radiohead : Karma Police, No Surprises, Paranoid Android

– Harry Nilsson : Everybody’s Talkin

– Pulp : Common People

– The Velvet Underground : Sunday Morning, maybe more stuff

– More Indie Rock/Folk stuff like Arcade Fire, The National, Elliott Smith, And they will know us by the trail of dead… if I can find some good sheet music

[drummerockband]

Hello and welcome. I’m glad to see U2 coming to rock band although I already made Still Haven’t Found and Sunday Bloody Sunday, my charts are probably crap compared to yours. I’m also glad to see bitter sweet symphony cause I was thinking of charting that haha.

[Farottone]

Hi everyone

 

Almost ready :

– 6-songs U2 pack

 

Welcome. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”> First of all, great. Excellent pack, I always wanted to do that but never got around to. Can’t wait to see it.

 

– Harry Nilsson : Everybody’s Talkin

 

Wow. Just wow.

[espher]

Definitely looking forward to this stuff. Welcome aboard. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”>

[Ollie]

Hello and welcome. I’m glad to see U2 coming to rock band although I already made Still Haven’t Found and Sunday Bloody Sunday, my charts are probably crap compared to yours. I’m also glad to see bitter sweet symphony cause I was thinking of charting that haha.

Thanks, yeah too bad for the U2 redondancy, I realized that yesterday when I gained access to the private forum.

Anyway, I’ll happily take any advice you could have (my charts are probably somewhat crappy too ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />)

Welcome. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” /> First of all, great. Excellent pack, I always wanted to do that but never got around to. Can’t wait to see it.

Definitely looking forward to this stuff. Welcome aboard. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

Thanks for your welcome guys.

 

Wow. Just wow.

Well I’ll do that one but if I had more free time, I’d probably try Coconut or Without You too (or Jump into the fire, probably funnier to play with a band but it’s a looong one). Maybe sometime later.

 

Anyway I updated my first post to put a link to the U2 pack. I’ll do the same later in a few hours for the Arcade Fire song.

[RyanHYK]

– 6-songs U2 pack

Needs more “New Year’s Day”.

 

Also, I’m looking at your Reaper files. One thing your keyboard MIDI is crucially missing is the rest of the range notes. You’ll need MIDI notes 2 (D2-F3), 4 (E2-G3), and 7 (G2-B3) to give yourself the maximum number of options.

 

Projects :

– 1 or 2 Radiohead songs from the OK Computer Era

Fair warning: when that stuff gets out, people are gonna want the rest of it.

[Farottone]

If you’re using the standard RBN Reaper template, download ours from the Tools forums, it’s got all you need and probably more. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif”>

[Ollie]

Needs more “New Year’s Day”.

Kinda funny, considering that’s probably my favourite U2 song (a band I don’t especially like, go figure). I may try to do it later.

Fair warning: when that stuff gets out, people are gonna want the rest of it.

That’s I’m afraid of, but I’d really like to play at least Karma Police or Exit music. I hope RB3 will live until 2014 on 360, so that I’ll be able to do a few songs ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif” />

 

And I forgot to say I’d love to see the Kinks in game too ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_biggrin.gif” />

 

Also, I’m looking at your Reaper files. One thing your keyboard MIDI is crucially missing is the rest of the range notes. You’ll need MIDI notes 2 (D2-F3), 4 (E2-G3), and 7 (G2-B3) to give yourself the maximum number of options.

If you’re using the standard RBN Reaper template, download ours from the Tools forums, it’s got all you need and probably more. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif” />

Well I started to chart my songs with the “old” standard RBN2 template and downloaded the C3 template later, but I didn’t feel like using it was necessary for the key parts I was charting because they were kinda easy. Problem is that I don’t own a RB3 keyboard and have pretty much no idea of what it’s supposed to look in game and how better it would be if I used all ranges. Can I can copy/paste the notes on the C3 template for these songs and rechart stuff for hard (the only difficulty i needed to cut stuff for) ?

[Farottone]

Well I started to chart my songs with the “old” standard RBN2 template and downloaded the C3 template later, but I didn’t feel like using it was necessary for the key parts I was charting because they were kinda easy. Problem is that I don’t own a RB3 keyboard and have pretty much no idea of what it’s supposed to look in game and how better it would be if I used all ranges. Can I can copy/paste the notes on the C3 template for these songs and rechart stuff for hard (the only difficulty i needed to cut stuff for) ?

 

Sure, absolutely.

 

I took a quick peek at your Reaper projects for drums and vocals. There are things to fix (some pattern for drums that are not 100% accurate, some slides for vocals, placement of some syllables) but if what I’ve seen is any indication of how you work, this is some solid stuff that won’t take long to polish and I’m sure will make more than a few people happy. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif”>

[Farottone]

And I forgot to say I’d love to see the Kinks in game too ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_biggrin.gif”>

 

I would easily pitch in for Sunny Afternoon.

[RyanHYK]

Playtest for “I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For”.

 

Drums

-All your drum fills appear to last a sixteenth longer than intended. They may even start a sixteenth sooner than intended.

-M75.1.75: Lose this red.

-M76.2.5: Should be a tom here.

-M80: There should be toms in this measure.

-M83.2.75: Make this red a yellow.

-M85.2.5: Should be a tome here.

-M85.4: Doesn’t sound like a snare here.

-M88.2.5: Should be a tom here.

-M90.2.5: Should be a tom here.

-M92: Should be toms here.

-M93: Should be toms here.

-M94.2.25: This blue is too early.

-M96-114: Do a sweep here, there are quite a few missing toms.

-M111.3.25: This red should be yellow.

 

Guitar

-M62.3.5: This should go:

GB-_-GB-GB-GY-_-GY

-M63.3.5: Same as above.

-M64.3.5: This would go:

GB-_-GB-_-GY-_-GY-_-GY

-M67.4: Um, what are you hearing here? I’m thinking it’d go as:

B-_-O (sustained to 69.3) O-_-O-_-B (sustained to 71.4.5)

-M108.4: This sustain touches the next note.

 

Bass

-M30.1: You oughta sustain this orange. Also occurs at M54, 88

-M30.3.5: This oughta go:

G-R-Y-B

Also occurs at M54, 88

-M58.1: I’m hearing this as a long sustained orange.

-M89: This might be eighths blues.

-M92: I’m hearing this as a long sustained orange up to M93.

-M96: This might be a sustained note.

-M97: This might be a sustained note.

-M100: This might be a sustained note.

-M101: This might be a sustained note.

 

Vocals

-Regarding every word that ends with “-ing”: General syllablizing tip, when you have a word that ends in “-ing,” you’ll always want “-ing” to be its own syllable to make it easier to read. Notice how weird “hea- ling” looks reading it here. This applies for all words, save for the ones that would add that extra consonant for grammatical what-not (beg- ging, skip- ping, etc). Basically, preserve the original word as much as you can.

-M15.1.5: “tain” starts too soon.

-M14: The dip to D# in “climbed” should be much shorter. Also, “climbed” should just be one syllable.

-M17.3.5: “ly” starts too soon.

-M21.4.25: “have run” should both be G#.

-M29.4.5: I’m only judging the solo vocals here, by the way, but I think the lead should be what’s charted. Chart whatever’s Bono. Unless he’s pulling a Brad Delp and doing all his own harmonies. Anyway, so “still” oughta be G#.

-M33.4.5: “still haven’t found” – G#->F#->F->C#

-M41.2.5: “It” – C#

-M43.3.62: “ing” starts too soon.

-M44.1.12: The F should be a +, and the G# that follows it should be “si-“.

-M45.4: “have” starts too soon.

-M46.3.5: “tounge (A#) of (G#) + (F#)”

-M47.3.5: “I” should be F.

-M47.4: “have” starts too soon.

-M49.4.87: “the” starts too soon.

-M50.1.36: “night” starts too soon.

-M52.1.5: “stone” should dip into C# at around 52.2.18.

-M53.2: “mmm” seems to start too soon and sound more like “hmm” to me.

-M53.4.36: “still haven’t” – G#->F#->F.

-M57.4.5: “still haven’t” – G#->F#->F.

-M74.3: “bleed” starts too soon.

-M78.2: “ning” sound like it should have a rise from D#.

-M83.1.25: “shame” starts too soon. Generally, you don’t want to chart too much “sh-” in “sh-” words.

-M87.4.5: “still haven’t found” – G#->F#->F->C#

-M91.4.5: “still haven’t found” – G#->F#->F->C#

-M95.1.5: “mmm mmm” should just be one “mmm” at D#.

-M95.3.5: “But I” should both be C#.

-M96.4.5: “found” sounds like it ought to be a D# that dips into C# at around M97.1.

-M99.3.5: “But I still haven’t found” – Should be like it was at M95.3.5, including my suggestions.

 

Well, that’s that. Also, if you decide to do “New Years Day” after all, I’d be down with doing a venue chart for you. Judging only by the Reaper file, it seems you have the chart auto-generated, something I myself am not too keen with. It seems the only guys around here willing to do venues are me, DeathThreatUK, OrangeHarrison, and Nyxyxylyth, so there’s a list for ya there.

[Ollie]

Sure, absolutely.

I’ll do that, then.

I took a quick peek at your Reaper projects for drums and vocals. There are things to fix (some pattern for drums that are not 100% accurate, some slides for vocals, placement of some syllables) but if what I’ve seen is any indication of how you work, this is some solid stuff that won’t take long to polish and I’m sure will make more than a few people happy. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif” />

Thanks, I pretty much expected that drums patterns and vocals would need more polishing anyway, because that’s where I had the hardest time picking things up.

I would easily pitch in for Sunny Afternoon.

Yeah and Waterloo Sunset too, and so many others, they probably released enough quality material on their 10 first albums to deserve a Kinks Rock Band game ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

 

Playtest for “I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For”.

[edited for space]

Well, that’s that. Also, if you decide to do “New Years Day” after all, I’d be down with doing a venue chart for you. Judging only by the Reaper file, it seems you have the chart auto-generated, something I myself am not too keen with. It seems the only guys around here willing to do venues are me, DeathThreatUK, OrangeHarrison, and Nyxyxylyth, so there’s a list for ya there.

Wooh thanks, that’s amazing and it will help me a lot, I know see how half-assed were some of my drums transcripts, I’ll update all my charts accordingly before I put it through playtesting.

 

And yes unfortunately, all my venues are autogenerated after I place practice sessions on the events track. I’m slowly learning the ropes of it, so I don’t think I’ll try to do a full venue chart by myself for a while, but I’ll tweak the autogenerated venues to make them look better. And thanks for your proposal, I’ll get in touch with you when I finish New year’s day. But fair warning, it may very well be 3 or 4 months from now ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

[espher]

I know Nemo authors venues (for himself and farottone iirc) and I author venues for my (few) tracks as well, but I don’t know that either one of us has time available to do ’em for other tracks. In a pinch you can always ask me and I might be able to fit some time in. I find them pretty easy if time consuming and tedious, and you usually need to give your track a couple of playthroughs in different venues to make sure you like the look.

[TrojanNemo]

i’ll break the mystique of what I do. this applies for all the songs I’ve done, converted, and updated, as well as all of farottone’s songs except for the Rush project.

 

I DONT do venues manually*. I spend my time on placing animation markers and doing the drum animations as well as I can with my limited knowledge of drumming. then I spend my time carefully laying out the practice sessions in the Events track. if you start with [prc_intro] you don’t know what Magma will give you. but if you do [prc_gtr_intro] or [prc_piano_intro] then you know exactly what you’ll get. so i’m very specific with my practice sessions.

 

then I choose the Theme in Magma and autogenerate a venue. then I go in and add the sing-a-longs for the songs with harmonies, and change some camera angles, usually intro and outro, to match what I think it should look like.

 

that’s 95% of the songs i’ve been involved with.

 

is it the best way? absolutely not. but it’s good enough that I have barely ever gotten any negative feedback on my animations/venues.

 

* I have done a few songs completely manually when the song calls for it. Namely songs that feature only one instrument/singer or like my Stephen Lynch – Craig song or Johnny Cash – Hurt song where you have vocals and guitar, but it’s supposed to be one person doing both, so I try to trick the game. i’ve also done this for a couple other songs on request to try to match the music video. For the most part, the above will get your song going just fine without needing to mess with manual creation of venues.

[Ollie]

That’s reassuring to read Nemo, because that’s precisely what I intended to do, at least for now. With that knowledge, I’ll probably move my revised songs with improved charts (and mistakes free I hope, like the misplaced drum fills) to the playtesting section by the end of the week, since the only truly missing things are guitar/bass animations (should’nt take too long) and a more polished venue track.

 

And espher, your proposal is very kind but I imagine you have a pretty tight schedule between the harmonies project and your customs, so I would’nt want you to waste your time on that. I may ask you for advice on cameras and lightning later though.

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