NothingChanges Customs! (Last update 8/16)

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  • #478283
    Jonztu
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      Double post…

      #481504
      apricot
      Participant

        I like how this thread only has people praying about this guy making customs for the songs but not complaining about how awful and absolutely terrible the charts are. Most notably At Doom’s Gate

         

         

         

         

         

        I already know this is an old thread but I’m just saying

        #481506
        Jonztu
        Participant

          Yeah. I took a look at Bang Bang. Still has some work to do. Not awful, though.

          #481507
          Jonztu
          Participant

            Double post, again.

            #481509
            VreyIsGrey
            Participant

              I like how this thread only has people praying about this guy making customs for the songs but not complaining about how awful and absolutely terrible the charts are. Most notably At Doom’s Gate

               

               

               

               

               

              I already know this is an old thread but I’m just saying

              I second this. I’ve subjected myself to watching his charts of the Steven Universe theme song, George Washington, Gasoline and At Doom’s Gate. My god, if he’s not the worst charter in the history of Rock Band, I don’t know who is. This makes Freewaymad’s charts look playable.

              #481510
              VreyIsGrey
              Participant

                Crap, how do I delete posts?

                #481516
                Jimi369
                Moderator

                  Crap, how do I delete posts?

                  While I agree that the world can do without the actual words you wrote, I feel it would serve your interests more to try and acquire some form of politeness and perhaps even constructive criticism.

                  Putting energy towards needlessly damaging two people in the same otherwise empty statement does nothing to help anyone make better customs. Nor does it get you better ones. It just reflects poorly on your character and poisons the forums.

                  #481520
                  Jonztu
                  Participant

                    I didn’t mean to be rude or anything, sorry if it came out that way. My point was that it’s cool to have your favorite songs in the game, hell I’d make lots of songs if I was capable, but it’s always quality over quantity. I know everyone can’t be as good as Farottone or MANG0 for instance and I know we all try our best.

                    I just bashed NothingChanges even though he couldn’t have known about the quality of his customs ’cause he never even received any feedback on how he could have improved them. And I’m guilty of that, too.

                    #481521
                    VreyIsGrey
                    Participant

                      While I agree that the world can do without the actual words you wrote, I feel it would serve your interests more to try and acquire some form of politeness and perhaps even constructive criticism.

                      Putting energy towards needlessly damaging two people in the same otherwise empty statement does nothing to help anyone make better customs. Nor does it get you better ones. It just reflects poorly on your character and poisons the forums.

                      I wanted to edit my post, but I pressed the “Quote” button by accident, and I accidentally made another post, so I edited the mistake post to “Crap, how do I delete posts?”

                      #481522
                      MrPrezident
                      Moderator

                        This makes Freewaymad’s charts look playable.

                        It’s disappointing to read comments like these considering how many hours people like Freewaymad put into this community. This was a dishonest statement at the very least. This is no way to criticize someone. I see you are relatively new here so I will give you the benefit of the doubt, but you’re off to a bad start.

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                        #481524
                        Farottone
                        Keymaster

                          If you can’t be bothered to read the rules, you are bound to get a suspension, which is what happened to SynthStreaks and ThatBlokeOverThere for 7 days. Here is what anyone should know simply by reading the rules:

                           

                          6) Be courteous and constructive when giving (or responding to) feedback on other people’s customs.

                           

                          This is even more true for someone who has 6 posts, 3 of which in the Requests forum, which means his contribution to the community is asking for stuff and insulting people. Feedback is good, negative feedback is good, crappying on other people for the sake of crappying is definitely not. Next time you feel somebody has not put enough time into doing something, put enough time into explaining why it is.

                          #481531

                          Lol, ok.

                           

                          1. The tempo maps are very inaccurate. No one is good when they start out (e.g. Me. You have no clue how many people I messaged and how many threads I made when I first started charting). Charting is hard, yes. But there’s a line that has to be drawn somewhere. Usually your first few charts suck (Looking back at a few of my charts, especially some of my drum only charts, they are god awful and I need to fix them). But as I said, the line is drawn when the problem is staring at you in the face. Running your own chart through RBN Preview especially in the case of these songs would you tell you that almost everything is off tempo and almost nothing matches up.

                           

                          2. Drum charts. My main instrument is drums and looking at these charts was hard. Things that are blantly not rhythmically sensical or missing things such as kicks that aren’t even hard to hear whatsoever seems to be an ongoing epidemic in this authors charts. Maybe just reading this could improve that aspect, as not one person until recently even went as far as to point out that these charts are not very good.

                           

                          3. General inconsistency and bad charting. Again, this can easily be improved. But my biggest concern is that problems are so abundent that I have reason to believe this author does not play Rock Band as much as maybe other authors do and is not as experienced in charting and does not know what a drum chart should even look like. Let’s take for example, Bang Bang. In the beginning of the song, Bass is charted on drums. This kind of thing gives me reason to believe the person barely plays the game let alone even looks at his charts before he posts them. After the little intro, the actual drum chart kicks in. One problem I notice is there are many kicks that are just ignored, and they aren’t even hard to hear.

                           

                          Another, smaller charting inconsitentcy in the drum chart, would be cymbal hits being BG instead of YG. Very nitpicky I agree but something that still bothered me.

                           

                          One thing that makes me very upset is this:

                           

                           

                          How do you even?

                           

                          More general inconsitencies like this in the Gasoline chart:

                           

                           

                          At Doom’s Gate:

                           

                           

                          I don’t know what headphones are being used but no kick notes make any sense in alot of these charts. Not to mention the extremely overcharted guitar in At Doom’s Gate.

                           

                          As I said before, we can all be guilty of being not very good, or even horrible charters we start out. Hell, this is actually exactly how I was when I started charting, don’t believe me? You could go back to some of the first threads I made and take a look at some of the videos, here, I’ll even link one now.

                           

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faNvwjTxLbs

                           

                          As you can see, this almost replicates what this author has done. The difference is this version never even made it past the first few minutes before I knew it was very very wrong. Today I’ve uploaded a drums only chart of this song, months after I uploaded this video. Even in the one I uploaded, it is very inaccurate (missing hi-hats, missing ghost notes, ect). This video was before I could even tempo map correctly, I think I remember setting one 90 BPM marker at the beginning and that was it.

                           

                          Sorry if I rambled or the critism wasn’t up to par, I kinda just did it on a whim. It should be noted that no one is perfect but it definetely didn’t help that this author was encouraged with his sub-par or even dare I say, bad charts. Improvement is always possible and I can see this author releasing some quality charts in the future, hopefully, if he does return.

                           

                          Thanks for reading.

                          #481534
                          Farottone
                          Keymaster

                            See? It CAN be done in a polite manner. I hope the original author will read on this and understand that if the criticism is accurate, these charts shouldn’t hit the DB the way they are.

                            #481538

                            It’s input like Jordan’s that can and should be recognized as constructive and helpful. The pics are self explanatory and are not meant as insult.

                            The proof is in the pudding and any author who truly wanted to improve would take criticism like this and apply it to the learning experience.

                            Encouragement and enthusiasm for one’s work is a blessing but input like this is truly valuable to the author. Very well done! :golfclap:

                             

                            Thanks Jordan for properly educating those of us who don’t know how to critique one’s work constructively with encouragement.

                            #481565
                            Farottone
                            Keymaster

                              It’s input like Jordan’s that can and should be recognized as constructive and helpful. The pics are self explanatory and are not meant as insult.

                              The proof is in the pudding and any author who truly wanted to improve would take criticism like this and apply it to the learning experience.

                              Encouragement and enthusiasm for one’s work is a blessing but input like this is truly valuable to the author. Very well done! :golfclap:

                               

                              No kidding, this is what taking a lot of time to do something looks like, kudos to him. Which is also what authors need to learn: every hour spent on a song is something the community should appreciate, yes, but bad/lazy work is bad/lazy work and it shouldn’t be here. Anyone uploading charts not up to par needs to realise that they lower the quality of the community DB in general. Take a bit more time, learn how to do things properly and things will look good. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”>

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