Mar 28, 2014 – Images and Words, five tracks by previous artists

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  • #416817
    TrojanNemo
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    Try again.

    #416825

    Thanks

     

    The links work now

    #416958
    Mindsink
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    Words (nor Images :c00l: ) can’t express how elated I am for this release. I’ve been anxiously waiting for this since C3 was born.

     

    I’m incredibly thankful for this!!! :excited: :dance:

    #417101
    Meander
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    When I try to open up the mogg files for any song on this album on Audacity, I get the following error message….

     

    “Audacity did not recognize the type of the file. If it is uncompressed, try importing it using “Import Raw”.

     

    Kinda annoys me since I’m trying to convert these for FoFiX for my own use (my copies of RB3 don’t work anymore).

    #417102
    TrojanNemo
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    Our files are protected. Your only choice is to download the Phase Shift versions when they go up on our database. In the meantime, patience.

    #419027
    iammax
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    Hey guys. I was wondering, is there a 1x bass drum version of Images and Words?

    #419030
    iammax
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    OK after playing a bit more I see these are already single bass, with with a lot more than half the notes charted… especially on Another Day and Pull Me Under (although that might be right from the gh4 chart)… Well, it’s awesome anyway.

    #419033
    Farottone
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    OK after playing a bit more I see these are already single bass, with with a lot more than half the notes charted

     

    Half the notes is not an authoring rule or guideline. It all depends on the number of consecutive notes, the speed of the song, triplets or not triplets, etc.

    #419034
    iammax
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    Well there are a lot of fills that seem way too fast to be reasonable for non-2x versions, I know it shouldn’t be half for the whole song, I meant “half in fast parts with fills”. There are a lot of fills which are (in real life) four very fast notes, played alternately on two pedals, Left-Right-Left-Right (or RLRL)… but in the single bass chart, they last one is knocked off, so it’s just three very fast, but still, it’s played with two pedals and is way too fast to be in a single bass chart, and what remains is the right-left-right part, which shouldn’t really be in a single pedal chart. You could play it with one foot if you wanted, but it’s awkward and uncomfortable. Kind of like Painkiller’s RB2 chart, except with fast fills, so it’s even harder.

     

    Don’t mean to sound overly whiny with this, just saying I think it’s overcharted for a single pedal version, that’s all.

    #419035
    Farottone
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    There are a lot of fills which are (in real life) four very fast notes, played alternately on two pedals, Left-Right-Left-Right (or RLRL)… but in the single bass chart, they last one is knocked off, so it’s just three very fast, but still, it’s played with two pedals and is way too fast to be in a single bass chart, and what remains is the right-left-right part, which shouldn’t really be in a single pedal chart. You could play it with one foot if you wanted, but it’s awkward and uncomfortable. Kind of like Painkiller’s RB2 chart, except with fast fills, so it’s even harder.

     

    Don’t mean to sound overly whiny with this, just saying I think it’s overcharted for a single pedal version, that’s all.

     

    I don’t think it is, and you have provided the reasons why. Single triplets on a single pedal are fine (as you stated, in the single bass chart the last hit is removed). Furthermore with “You could play it with one foot if you wanted, but it’s awkward and uncomfortable” you have described almost every single Disturbed song in game: those are all played on 2 bass drums in real life but translated to a single pedal in game, making it more hard and awkward to play, but playable.

     

    Harmonix has always stated that the logic is: if it can reasonably be played on a single pedal (granted, by a good player), it’s fine. And that’s how I always approach my songs: I’m absolutely not that good at quick or constant bass drum hits and if I can hit a fair amount of those in a series before fatigure sets in, I leave them in. Obviuosly there’s always a fine line, but having to try a little harder to actually play the real thing is, in my book (and usually in Harmonix’s books, a few examples aside), better than playing a very easy version of something you can clearly hear is not the real thing.

    #419046
    iammax
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    I don’t think Disturbed is an appropriate comparison, I think a better one would be that blast of bass notes in And Justice For All (

    ) because of how fast it is. The one in AJFA is more notes than the ones in the songs I’m referring to, but the speed is comprable (and unlike in AJFA, in the DT songs, they happen over and over). Something like the chorus of Indestructible is not even close to as fast…

    #419047
    Farottone
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    I don’t think Disturbed is an appropriate comparison, I think a better one would be that blast of bass notes in And Justice For All (

    ) because of how fast it is. The one in AJFA is more notes than the ones in the songs I’m referring to, but the speed is comprable (and unlike in AJFA, in the DT songs, they happen over and over)

     

    Considering you keep bringing up examples of how the DT songs are charted on single bass according to what HMX used to do, I’m not sure which side you’re on. <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”> It all fits within what HMX used to do for single bass and it’s playable on a single pedal. The fact that in Pull Me Under the pattern is repeated is irrelevant: the only situation in which a repeated playable pattern is simplified is when it’s constant (you cited Painkiller, and that’s a continuous stream of hits reduced by removing the kick under the snare, IIRC, which is a common way to simplify the double bass).

    #419048
    iammax
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    I’m not really on any side, I’m just discussing it />_>” title=”>_>” class=”bbcode_smiley” /> </p>
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<p>Well, on the subject of painkiller, I think a more common way to reduce these is to do what’s done in the chorus of Under A Glass Moon, which is to go from 123412341234 to 2424242424…which is to cut out the left foot’s notes. See the Van Halen Painkiller drums chart for another example. Especially since to my knowledge HMX has not done things like those blasts in …AJFA often since then, I think it was just a bad chart and was only like that because they were kind of new to making drum charts.</p>
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<p>I certainly don’t think anything in the DT is overcharted enough to justify a re-do or anything, especially because you can cheese the engine a bit by starting early and ending late… I’m just a little surprised it was done in this way.</p>

		
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