[Magius74]

Hello, I’m new to this community and only recently discovered customs. I really appreciate all the hard work that everyone is putting here and I do not want to disrespect anyone. I am just wanting to initiate a serious discussion on how RB4 might affect what is being done here.

We are all happy to see more Rock Band, YAY! But unfortunately I am one of those people that is stuck between the cross console upgrade path. I have almost 400 purchased DLC songs on my x360 but I have made the jump to PS4, so I can’t transfer all my great purchased music to RB4. So I have made the desicion to stay with RB3 and all the work here is breathing new life into RB3 for me. Sure I would like to play RB4 but I can not justify $1,000 bucks to do so.

So here we are with new content being added to RB3 every day thanks to all the hard work by the authors here at C3 but will it be underminded by having to take that work down everytime similar material is realease for RB4?

I certainly understand the desire to not infringe on what Harmonix is doing but what about what C3 is doing. The goal for C3 is focused on RB3. Does realeasing content for for RB3 effect what Harmonix is trying to do with RB4?

I’m not trying to complain or upset anyone here. I just see this as an interesting discussion as the what effect C3 customs really have on Harmonix product.

RB3 is an OLD product. I’m assuming that a lot of people are moving on to RB4 (a life without customs), some people are doing both RB4 and RB3 (probably keeping RB3 just for customs) and some like me that have a finacial hurdle are staying with RB3. So in these cases how does a custom for a RB4 only song effect their likelyhood of purchasing the song from Harmonix? I see it only having a small possible effect in the second circumstance. I say “small possible effect” because of the fact that the RB4 version of a song will have more features then what the C3 cummunity could put in. SO there is always going to be a very real reason to want to purchase a Song that Harmonix has realease for RB4 even if there is a RB3 custom of it here.

Let me give you an example that I am facing.

Since I am new to the community I have just now gotten caught up with all the custom releases. I love Van Halen and just downloaded everything that has been done for them, special thanks to the GHtoRB3 project. But of course Panama has been taken down since it is in RB4. Now in my situation I have a bunch of custom Van Halen in my RB3 game. Lets say I did buy RB4 on my PS4 and so I had access to the new version of Panama. Would I buy the song? Sure! Hell yeah. But if I was in the mood to play alot of Van Halen I would probably play my C3 Customs on RB3 because there are simply more Van Halen songs released. Maybe some day Harmonix’s cataloge of Van Halen will equal what has been done with Customs, which is why Panama should be purchased, but in the meantime having all availabe Van Halen songs as RB3 customs has value as well.

Anyway sorry for the long post, but I wanted to contribute something to the community and add something for everyone to think about. Once again not trying to upset anyone just want to promote serious discussion and thought. Thanks agian to everyone here for all the great work! You guys are awesome!

[RBPUK]

Welcome – but you’ve posted this in the wrong forum!

[Nyxyxylyth]

That’s why official C3 releases stopped.

 

Also, any C3 release or other custom is pulled once HMX announces official DLC.

[Magius74]

Sorry for the mis post. I realize my subject line may seem like this is about RB4 but I feel it is more about the future of custom song and thus fit in with the Customs Discussion thread.

 

@ Magnificent Bastard. Thanky you for your reply. I am aware of the policys here. I was not asking a question about the policy per se. I am trying to initiate a conversation amongst the community here about if that policy should apply to new more advanced RB4 releases and what that will do to this community if that is the case.

[Nyxyxylyth]

I am trying to initiate a conversation amongst the community here about if that policy should apply to new more advanced RB4 releases and what that will do to this community if that is the case.

I’m missing your point. If HMX releases a song as RB4 DLC, it’s removed from here as fast as we can.

 

Or are you suggesting we stay away from artists like Van Halen, in anticipation of future DLC?

[Jimi369]

Welcome to the forums.
As to the question you asked “How will RB4 affect the community?” there is probably a few dozen answers.
Who knows?

At least one very tangible effect we’ve all noticed is weekly releases ending. A lot of players will have migrated to Rock Band 4 or will do so in the near (distant) future. Some completely, some partially. With those people, both authors and “consumers”, gone it will at least initially take a bite out of the energy that resides in this place. The new game could potentially also bring new people in.
But with less people downloading, playing and appreciating the songs, for authors who get all of their fuel (read: motivation) to dedicate hours upon hours of their time to creating from positive response, it will likely be more difficult to keep on going.

I don’t see this place going anywhere though. A lot of future-proofing seems to have been done to the site and in some ways the formula of this place. That and there will always be people who are less motivated by praise from outside to keep on creating content. I believe some people are still creating songs for guitar hero 3 and there might even be the some who are still working on creating for the PS2 versions. Untill every song ever published is available for every platform, there will be customs. You just won’t be able to download them all from here.

As for the pulling of songs: You can argue that some people who can’t or won’t make the generational leap yet, are not in the market for the RB4 songs and Harmonix doesn’t miss out on that particular income.
Which in and of itself is true, but if there is continued acces to those songs in this place, people who don’t upgrade have less incentive to do so. If it was just about the income, regardless of platform, Harmonix would bring out those songs for RB3 as well. They don’t. They want and NEED support on current-gen platforms.

I don’t like pulling of content or not being able to post some things anymore than you do.
The people that make this place a reality respect Harmonix too much to want to take away from what the company is doing. And in turn we as people who like to come here and get great content for free, have to respect that.
Continued hosting of songs which compete with RB purchase could potentially be a very effective way to get this website shut down.

But I don’t get the feeling that it is the number one reason for the decision to pull content and to stop official C3 releases.

 

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[TrojanNemo]

The question you have to ask yourself is how long will the keepitfishy domain and the files hosted on that server continue being up now that I’m exclusively on RB4 and will probably have little to no involvement with RB3 customs

 

[Rushfan2112]

There you have it ! Straight from the Master Server ( he who holds the magic key ) Administrator…….

If I was you I would Download , Download , Download all the songs you want .

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[Farottone]

Probably not many people remember what the customs world looked like before we started this project. We made it a point since day 1 not to have pirated content (as in CON files taken from the store and shared) and not have duplicates of official content. It’s not a new policy for Rock Band 4, it’s been there since April 2013 because we wanted to clean up the mess that was the customs world of the pre-C3 era. We don’t even ask ourselves the question of whether custom content can be competition for official DLC, it’s just a very bad idea to have something out that can more than legitimately piss off those who let use be.

[Magius74]

Thanks you guys for the well thought out posts. Jimi369, I really appreciate all your thoughts on this. Also great to hear from TrojanNemo and Farottone as well. I really respect all your guys work.

Ya know I really see this whole thing as a potential shifting of the focus of this project. This project is now basically supporting a retro game. RB4 is the new hotness and RB3, RB2, GH3 all those games are essentially end of life and will not be supported by their parent companies. As much respect as we all have for HMX we have to admit that if we are only RB3 players then we have a game that is not supported any more. I realize that became the case back when the official DLC stopped but now there is the new factor of RB4. Despite the fact that RB4 is done but HMX in some very real ways it is a competing product to RB3 and thus it’s exsistance will negativly impact RB3 customs. Seems kinda weird doesn’t it. We all probably have been begging for a new Rock Band game and now it has this effect. Oh well, perhaps one day there will be RB4 customs……

[FujiSkunk]

As much as we (collectively) love Rock Band 3 and our customs, we want to see the company that gave it all to us thrive. The only way they can do that is to keep releasing new product. We also want to see the franchise thrive and attract new players, and the only way that can really happen is to keep releasing new titles, especially when there is a new platform to play them on. Some of us are a… wee bit disappointed RB4 didn’t retain some of the things we loved about RB3, but we still wish Harmonix the best.

 

Myself, I never gave up my Atari 2600 or my Commodore 64, so I was already used to having fun playing games with no official support and a small but very dedicated fan base. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

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