HOPO Threshold/ General HOPo Questions

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    So, I’m still very new to authoring/editing charts, and I’m having trouble with a lot of notes that I want to be HOPOs not appearing as HOPOs when I build the song and play it in game. I’ve tried adjusting the HOPO threshold in Magma up and down but nothing has changed either way. Is there something else I need to change to get these notes to register as HOPOs? I’ve heard of forcing HOPOs but I’m not sure how to do that yet, and if that’s the only fix, would I then have to go through and force them for each note?

     

    Also, sorry for asking so many questions, it’s just I can never find the specific answers I’m looking for without asking. Maybe I need to google harder.

    #506561
    EchoOfMystery
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      I’d say that the threshold is the last thing you wanna mess with. Simply drawing a note (as long as you want the hopo to be) where it says “Force HOPO” in the MIDI editor is enough for most cases. Only works on Expert or Hard difficulties, though.

      #506564

      Actually for Pro Guitar/Bass authors, you might want to play with this setting more often. Pro Guitar allows you to make forced HOPOs, but it doesn’t allow you make forced strum notes, so that setting is a good workaround.

      #506577

      I’d say that the threshold is the last thing you wanna mess with. Simply drawing a note (as long as you want the hopo to be) where it says “Force HOPO” in the MIDI editor is enough for most cases. Only works on Expert or Hard difficulties, though.

      So then how would I go about forcing HOPOs? Would I have to do it for each note i want to be HOPOd?

      #506578

      You just have to place the HOPO marker at the same time as the notes you want to be forced HOPOs. You can make the marker longer and reach multiple notes, you can also make one marker for each notes, it doesn’t really matter.

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      EchoOfMystery
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        #506583

        So I’ve read the doc, and I think I understand. I need to put the force note before the notes that I want to be forced and then place the off note after the section. What I’m not clear on is whether F1 is the note used to force HOPOs and F#1 is the note used to end the section, or vice versa. For reference, I’m not using CAT, CARV, or any of the other plugins because I’ve tried multiple versions of REAPER and followed the guides, but can never get the plugins working properly.

        #506584

        The off note is to force strum notes as far as I know, so it isn’t needed unless you want to force strum notes.

        As for the actual note, I don’t recall what it is but it was above the expert notes so it is defenetly not in the “1” octave. It should be named if you used the RBN stuff.

        #506585

        The off note is to force strum notes as far as I know, so it isn’t needed unless you want to force strum notes.

         

        As for the actual note, I don’t recall what it is but it was above the expert notes so it is defenetly not in the “1” octave. It should be named if you used the RBN stuff.

        Would it be F6 and F#6 then, since the Expert gems are the 6th octave?

        #506587
        EchoOfMystery
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          Would it be F6 and F#6 then, since the Expert gems are the 6th octave?

           

          That’s correct.

          #506588

           

          That’s correct.

          Thank you. With that out of the way, is there any way to sort the notes in REAPER so that I just see the expert notes? The song I’m working on has a ton of notes as well as E/M/H so a way to just view the expert chart would really help.

          #506590
          EchoOfMystery
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            Thank you. With that out of the way, is there any way to sort the notes in REAPER so that I just see the expert notes? The song I’m working on has a ton of notes as well as E/M/H so a way to just view the expert chart would really help.

             

            You’re welcome! But, no, unless you duplicate the track and erase the notes you don’t want to see, I don’t think there is. This is not standard procedure, mind you. :v:

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            You’re welcome! But, no, unless you duplicate the track and erase the notes you don’t want to see, I don’t think there is. This is not standard procedure, mind you. :v:

            Well, I’ve got a long weekend ahead of me so maybe I can start chipping away at it. Thanks again for the help, I feel like I understand the process so much better now.

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