EQing like Harmonix?

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    jed
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      I’m working on a song using the multitracks and I’d like to chart the bass synth part on the bass, but my multitrack doesn’t have the synths split apart from one another. I figured I’d fudge it and have the audio for both the keys and bass parts be the same source with high and low pass filters respectively, while making it so that they still unaltered when they’re heard together (kind of like the crap Harmonix has been pulling off for the past few months). What tips do y’all have for smart EQing? Which (free) EQ plugins do you like?

      #468917

      How long has RB4 been doing this for?

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      How long has RB4 been doing this for?

      I think Get Lucky was the first RB4 DLC where people noticed this. A good example is during this part: https://youtu.be/96u8vNEB4Xw?t=147

      You can hear a change in the vocal track audio even though it’s just guitar notes that are not being played.

       

      Harmonix did this before RB4 as well. Here are some examples that I can think of:

      • The Beatles:Rock Band
      • Longview by Green Day
      • No Woman No Cry by Bob Marley
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      jed
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        I think Get Lucky was the first RB4 DLC where people noticed this. A good example is during this part: https://youtu.be/96u8vNEB4Xw?t=147

        You can hear a change in the vocal track audio even though it’s just guitar notes that are not being played.

         

        Harmonix did this before RB4 as well. Here are some examples that I can think of:

        • The Beatles:Rock Band
        • Longview by Green Day
        • No Woman No Cry by Bob Marley

         

         

        It started happening with All The Rage Back Home, the cases that happened before Rock Band 4 were because either the songs didn’t have multitracks in the first place, or the masters were in poor condition and they had to complete the album (or in the Beatles case, include early Beatles songs). More recently they’ve been doing this method as a cost-effective workaround so they don’t have to request the multitracks. It seems cheap and below Harmonix’s standards but given neither Guitar Hero Live nor Rocksmith use multitracks it looks like using multitracks is unfortunately going out of style.

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        MaybeTowelie
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          It started happening with All The Rage Back Home, the cases that happened before Rock Band 4 were because either the songs didn’t have multitracks in the first place, or the masters were in poor condition and they had to complete the album (or in the Beatles case, include early Beatles songs). More recently they’ve been doing this method as a cost-effective workaround so they don’t have to request the multitracks. It seems cheap and below Harmonix’s standards but given neither Guitar Hero Live nor Rocksmith use multitracks it looks like using multitracks is unfortunately going out of style.

           

          This makes me incredibly sad. I loved to hear the different mixes HMX would make for the songs. Its actually the reason I was so glad RB4 came back, as I like customs, but always preferred the multitrack versions. Now the new DLC doesn’t excite me as much for this reason.

          #469014
          Linos Melendi
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            Since no one has an answer yet, for one of my customs I just went the lazy route and split the stem into to two separate mono tracks, one for each channel.

            #469129
            jed
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              I asked one of my sound recording professors and this is what he said:

               

              You’ll need to compensate for the slope of the filters. The gap between the two filters would depend on the slopes and frequency of the crossover point as well. There’s probably a good math equation for this but off the top of my head I cannot divulge the exact answer but using your ears you should be able to get close. Using an 18dB slope, try putting an octave between the hi and lo pass filter and the adjust as needed.

              Back in the days of analog we used to print the kick and snare on the same track and through filters and gates we could eq the two sounds separately on two channels.
              Hope this helps

               

              Unfortunately the built-in EQ plugin in Reaper doesn’t allow you to adjust slope directly so I fudged it and it ended up with a bit more low-end than I expected but it still sounds great.

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