DoNotPassGo’s Customs (Journey Pack: Progress)

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    I user an older REAPER and never got CAT to work when I first tried. I also only do my own reductions and anything else myself as I’ve never had it, so I never noticed that.

     

    I mean, I knew the drum issue would come up when I was told to chart the percussion shaker along with the toms. Originally, I just want to chart the tom/cymbal hits and chart the percussion shaker as a hi-hat pedal (just visually), but I guess I’ll probably just change the percussion to green and move the B/G toms to Y/B.

     

    No idea, I guess I just have bad hearing ha. It really hard for me to pick up on multiple voices, but I’ll give it another pass through. I’ll deal with the pitches later. Right now, I just created notes a 3rd above the HARM1 notes which I know is just a placeholder.

    #434153
    Farottone
    Keymaster

      No idea, I guess I just have bad hearing ha. It really hard for me to pick up on multiple voices, but I’ll give it another pass through. I’ll deal with the pitches later. Right now, I just created notes a 3rd above the HARM1 notes which I know is just a placeholder.

       

      I usually just work in reverse: copy all notes from HARM1 to 2 and delete what’s not needed, so everything lines up perfectly.

      #434158

      I do that for the lyrics usually as a big help and just use H1 as a base for H2. I was guessing though that the hard pitches were not just the same as H1s. I copied down the notes, removed what I thought was not the Harmony part, and then shifted all the notes up a 3rd as a temp fix.

       

      I feel that most harmonies are not just the same pitch? Unless that is actually what’s happening.

      #434185
      Nyxyxylyth
      Participant

        Here’s an RPP with updated pro keys:

        http://keepitfishy.com/d.php?54890f2a8078b

         

        I ditched the octaves, because who knows if it’s played with separate keyboard zones, or a layered patch, or whatever. Better to err on the easier side of for a nice tranquil song.

         

        I squinted to hear the harmonics a little better and rejiggered some of the chords. See what you think.

         

        The section behind the guitar solo from 85 to 91 needs some big help though. It seems like it’s trying to mirror the guitar, but you can hear something different at 91. My brain’s too fuzzed to handle it tonight though.

         

        Harmonies will have to wait for the weekend.

        #434187

        Big help man, thank you. I’ll take the new keys, throw them in my newer file, and then upload the files tomorrow after I try and work on the harmonies.

         

        As for that section behind the guitar, honestly I don’t really hear it either. It was like that in one of the midi’s, and I’m guessing that was just something that someone threw in. I charted it in my first draft, and never looked back at it >_<. I believe there was another part (synth or such) along with that in a midi, so I'll dig that out and chart something else up and see how that looks.

        #434188
        Nyxyxylyth
        Participant
          As for that section behind the guitar, honestly I don’t really hear it either. It was like that in one of the midi’s, and I’m guessing that was just something that someone threw in.

          A lot of the time, MIDIs are rearranged for just that instrument – so the guitar solo was remapped to keys. Makes perfect sense if you were just a solo keys guy. Not so much for RB3.

           

          Since the guitar is so prominent there, we’ll have to resort to plausible fiction, but copypasting the same progression is probably a good start.

          #434190

          I mean, it was a full band midi, so it was not the usual case (which I know exactly what you mean) where an instrument is arranged to be a “full” substitute. The guitar was charted as well, this was just behind. Like I said, however, I’m pretty sure there was charted synth behind it. I probably chose to chart the current because it was more enjoyable to play… before I actually checked what was playing.

           

           

          Trust me, I know about midi charts there. I own a piano sheet for The Load-Out (Jackson Browne)… but there are a lot of parts which are charted pretty much along side the vocals. You can tell that while most of it is accurate, they changed a lot of parts around to be a solo piano piece. I want to start this song as well soon, but I know I’m going to have to go through and manually determine some parts since I seem to only be able to find this charting (it’s the on I can play).

          #434201
          Farottone
          Keymaster

            I believe we’re overthinking this. I, and I’m not saying I have the best ear in the world but I’m not a complete novice, can’t hear almost any synth outside of the single notes melody. If there is synth throughout the song it just needs to be plausible if you want to give the pro keys players something to do. And if the guitar solo doesn’t seem to really have synth beneath it, let’s ditch the synth…

            #434203
            I believe we’re overthinking this. I, and I’m not saying I have the best ear in the world but I’m not a complete novice, can’t hear almost any synth outside of the single notes melody. If there is synth throughout the song it just needs to be plausible if you want to give the pro keys players something to do. And if the guitar solo doesn’t seem to really have synth beneath it, let’s ditch the synth…

             

            Honestly not trying to be a dick or anything, but there is synth throughout most of the song you should* be able to hear. I’m not judging as clearly my ear is terrible for hearing more than one person sing ha, but they are focus on the background noise. More so (like I stated before), the pianist for Cheap Trick has several* keyboards around him while performing.

             

            The synth notes you hear during the chorus are not the same as what’s playing through most of the song. The verses have something that sounds closer to violins as back-held notes playing.

            #434208
            Nyxyxylyth
            Participant

              I think we’re a-ok on keys except for under the guitar solo. I’ll wait for DoNotPassGo to give it a go before I have another look.

              #434215

              Assuming Nyx has the keys how he’d like on the last update he sent, I’ve updated most of the changes onto the new .rpp.

               

              Link:

              http://www.mediafire.com/download/gjzge … date.2.RPP

               

              Drums:

              – Intro has been shifted from Y to G, with the toms/cymbals moved to Y/B

              – Easy reduced further

               

              Guitar:

              – Chorus guitar tweaked a bit to Far’s suggestions.

              – Measure 49. This is a part which I originally charted to Keys, which we determined was Guitar. During this part, the acoustic steel guitar is also being played an already charted. How do you want to handle this? (ie, just keep acustic; chart lead part in between?)

               

              Keys:

              – Nyx’s changes used.

              – I recharted the Guitar Solo section. It sounds like a similar patter to the verse chords, just with extra notes in the first half, and a couple keys throw in leading up to the second half. See how those play.

              – Changed the Lane Switches

              – H/M/E have been removed from Pro Keys and 5-Lane. I’ll redo the reductions (and the 5-lane) once we decide on final Pro keys.

               

               

              General Changes/Questions:

              -It appears that the entire Pro Keys can* be played using the E2-G3 range as long as you invert the couple of G#3’s in the song down an octave to below the chord. I’m not sure how much people care about lane switches? Just something to check if anyone wanted remove all range switches for this one tweak (does not matter to me).

              – I still have the old DRUMS track in there (hidden). If possible, just leave that in there. When this is finished, I’m planning on exporting myself a copy of the song with the original Hi-Hat on yellow intro. I’m a drummer, and that plays a lot better for me on my Pro set anyways. It feels awkward for play that on the Green. I’ll take it out and make a copy of the .rpp towards the end.

              – I have not* gotten to the vocals yet. I replaced the old HARM2 with another copy of HARM1 so all the original information is back in.

               

               

              Just a heads up. The power went out at my work a while ago (damn snow), and some of the servers are having problems loading and such. I work IT, and we’re having a LOT of problems at other branches because of this. I likely will not be getting back to this until later tonight. So take your time looking into whatever. I’m going to be busy most of the day/night getting everything back up and in order here. Thanks!

              #434216
              Nyxyxylyth
              Participant

                I’d say keep the lane changes – it makes the chorus a much more rewarding climax if you’re playing on a real keyboard.

                #434565

                While I’m waiting to hear back, I went ahead and charted out reductions for the Pro Keys. I also went back and recharted the 5-Lane Keys with reductions as well.

                 

                For ALL of the key charts, I did not chart out the “guitar solo” section so that we can decide on the chart before I finish the 5L+Reductions.

                 

                I’ll wait for feedback before I finish the key charts and then I’ll reupload the file.

                 

                 

                Side note, loving the Christmas event you guys are having!

                #434566
                Farottone
                Keymaster
                  While I’m waiting to hear back, I went ahead and charted out reductions for the Pro Keys. I also went back and recharted the 5-Lane Keys with reductions as well.

                   

                  What are the parts you still need feedback on?

                   

                  Side note, loving the Christmas event you guys are having!

                   

                  And on a side side note, I’m thinking about adding this to the New Year’s Eve pack, you gotta have something slow to dance to after all. Thoughts?

                  #434571

                  The keyboard section during the guitar solo. I recharted what I heard better, but I know Nyx wanted to look at it or yourself.

                   

                  I also just need help with the harm2.

                   

                   

                   

                  Also, yeah that would be fine. Assuming it’s finished and such by then, yeah go ahead. Glad to see it released.

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