A few questions.
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Hi. I’m a Phase Shift charter over at FoF forums, but there is a person here (beard216) that converts my charts frequently, so I kind of pay attention to C3.
I just have a few questions.
1). Are unpitched harmonies a thing? And are they acceptable here? (I assume they would, but just asking to be sure)
I can’t do pitched vocals/harmonies at all save for a few exceptions, so I’m just wondering about this.
2). What are all the features for Pro Guitar/Bass?
I can chart the correct notes just fine, as I’m an experienced musician, but I don’t play RB3, so I can’t test what features are included.
I chart mostly with EOF, and it has support for charting Pro Guitar, but you can add stuff that, IIRC, RB3 doesn’t support. So I want to know what RB3 does and doesn’t support so I can chart it properly.
Here is a list of what EOF can do for Pro Guitar:
Overlapping notes (like the keys)
Hammer-ons/Pull-offs
Trills
Tremolos
Arpeggios
Strum Directions
Slides
Taps
Bends
Palm Mutes
Harmonics
Vibratos
Ghost Notes
String Mutes
Sorry if this is in the wrong place, please move it if it is.
1.) Yes they are a thing
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Hammer on/pull offs
Trills
Slides
Again, don’t quote me on those last ones
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2.) I dont chart pro guitar/bass so I’m not an expert on it but looking at the least you gave I think you can only do:
Hammer on/pull offs
Trills
Slides
Again, don’t quote me on those last ones
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />I would love to add some pro guitar to my customs but i don’t really want to down chart it.
RB3 pro guitar does also support tremolo, arpeggio, strum directions and fully string muted chords/notes (can’t have something like xx2x3x because it will show up as xxxxxx in-game).
RB3 pro guitar does also support tremolo, arpeggio, strum directions and fully string muted chords/notes (can’t have something like xx2x3x because it will show up as xxxxxx in-game).So everything that RB3 supports is:
Hammer-on/Pull-offs
Trills
Tremolos
Arpeggios
Slides
Strum Directions
String Mutes
Is this correct?
I believe so, yes. Unofficially, other techniques were occasionally found to be authored in the MIDI file (bends, harmonics, vibrato, tapping, palm muting), but those aren’t displayed in-game.
Taps show up in game as hammer on/pull offs, but unlike hopos, you do not have to strum the previous note to be able to tap the note without your streak being broken.
Also hopo chords work in game, but are not displayed differently to other chords in game.
Just to clarify something on chords with muted strings, xx2x3x would not work, but __2_3_ would work just fine
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” /> If you’re going to release customs with pro guitar I’d definitely suggest grabbing a mustang and playing through the RB3 campaign (try to get through at least hard) just to understand what you can and cannot do with the system.
I can’t explain it perfectly, but many concessions are made so that the part is clear and readable in game and possible to play without losing your streak, which does change how the part would play on a real guitar.
If you’re going to release customs with pro guitar I’d definitely suggest grabbing a mustang and playing through the RB3 campaign (try to get through at least hard) just to understand what you can and cannot do with the system.The thing is, I can’t. I don’t own RB3 at all, that’s the main reason I chart for PS instead.
As for charting the Pro Guitar, is there any general rules that I should follow?
Like, how would I chart Harmonics and Palm Mutes? I assume Palm mutes are charted just the same as the real song, so this question is mainly for the Harmonics.
e.g.
Take an Artificial Harmonic 7 on the A string and a normal 5 on the B string.
The 5 on the B string doesn’t have the “harmonic” sound to it, but it’s still the same note (some guitarists will probably argue against that, but they can’t deny that it’s true).
Using the example given, do I still chart it as a 7 on the A string, just without the harmonic notation, or a simple 5 on the B string.
EDIT:
One more thing. Any tips on charting pitched vocals, like how to find the correct notes? I really want to and I know I can do it if I try, so any tips?
For palm mutes, if the pitch of the note/chord is still clearly audible, (only sounds marginally different to unmuted notes/chords) then don’t author it as a muted note. If it sounds really muted, then author it as a mute.
First, I would author that as a 7th fret A string harmonic, because that’s how it’s played, and you’re very obviously telling the player that by authoring it as such. If the song is technical enough to use artificial harmonics, it’s not unreasonable to assume that someone who is trying to learn the song on a real guitar based on your chart, knows what they are.
But if while playing you chart you find that it’s really uncomfortable to play on the 7th fret (you always break your streak trying to hit it, etc etc) you might find it more acceptable from a gameplay perspective to author it on the 5th fret, even though that’s not how it should be played, if it stops the chart from breaking, you should do it.
That’s why it’s so tricky to author pro guitar without actually playing the game, you’re never quite certain what will and won’t work to play in game.
Pitched vocals, you’re using EOF right? EOF plays back the notes you put down right?
It’s as simple as just matching up the pitch of those notes with the pitch of the notes the singer is singing.
If you’re finding it hard to determine exactly what note the singer is singing, just do your best, There’s not really a science behind it other than to just listen really hard.
The only way you can get better is with lots of practice.
I guess I’ll hold off on the Pro Guitar, maybe if I eventually get RB3 and a pro guitar.
As for the vocals.
Thanks a lot, I just tried it and it really helps so much. I’ll definitely be doing more vocals/harmonies.
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />I guess I’ll hold off on the Pro Guitar, maybe if I eventually get RB3 and a pro guitar.As for the vocals.
Thanks a lot, I just tried it and it really helps so much. I’ll definitely be doing more vocals/harmonies.
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif”>If you can sing, even if you can just carry a note, download a tuner app on your mobile phone and use that to help you. Whenever I author by ear I can’t go without a tuner: sing the note and get the pitch.
If you can sing, even if you can just carry a note, download a tuner app on your mobile phone and use that to help you. Whenever I author by ear I can’t go without a tuner: sing the note and get the pitch.Is there a specific one that you could recommend available on google play store (I have a Galaxy S6)?
I use this one:
I guess I’ll hold off on the Pro Guitar, maybe if I eventually get RB3 and a pro guitar.Don’t forget that Phase Shift supports pro guitar! You could grab a ps3 mustang which uses a usb dongle iirc, and plug and play with PS (or if you know you’re getting a 360 and RB3 in the future, a 360 mustang and a xbox 360 wireless gaming receiver)
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