Froogle’s WIP chart warehouse
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April 10, 2016 at 3:38 pm #393745
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Welcome to my WIP thread! I hope to start adding drums and bass to some of my future customs. I will be posting expert guitar only customs in this thread, and will expand upon them until I believe that they are ready for the database. As for collaborations, don’t hesitate to ask me if you’d like to “finish” one of my customs. I won’t bite, however, this is important. I DO NOT WORK WITH REAPER, SO I CANNOT PROVIDE REAPER PROJECT FILES. Now, before you say my customs are of lower quality than everybody else’s, solely because I use EOF and not REAPER, I can guarantee that this is not true. In fact, many of the customs in my song thread, on this very website, are properly tempo mapped, the notes are on grid, and they have overdrive. Don’t believe me? Go on, play a couple. I can wait.
….You’re back? Okay, good. Here’s the short amount of songs I’m working on, in no particular order. Songs highlighted songs will be full band. Songs highlighted purple have only expert guitar done
Avail – Simple Song
Hum – Green to Me
Local H – Bound for the Floor
Lagwagon – May 16
Psychostick – Obey the Beard
Incubus – Privilege
Incubus – A Certain Shade of Green
Hello, fellow C3ers. here I will post what songs I am working on/would like to, to avoid duplicates, also to see if anyone wants to collaborate with me. I want to get all the songs I will release here from this day onward to have every instrument charted, with all difficulties. Now I’m far from the greatest author, so any chart I post will likely have errors, regardless of the instruments I charted.
? – ?(full band album, 7/13 songs with at least guitar and bass finished)*collab with TheWay123
Dig – Unlucky Friend (Guitar/Drums finished)*slight drum Fixes by Kloporte, Believe
Hum – Green to Me (Guitar/Bass/Drums finished)*slight drum Fixes by TheWay123
Rival Schools – Used For Glue (tempo mapped)
Sponge – Wax Ecstatic (To Sell Angelina) (tempo mapped)
Static-X – The Only (guitar done, don’t like the chart though )
Sugartooth – Sold My Fortune
Big Sugar – All Hell for a Basement
Deftones – Swerve City
Moist – Push
Rusty – Anything off of Fluke
The Trews – Tired of Waiting (Guitar/drums WIP), Paranoid Freak, Poor Ol’ Broken Hearted Me
The Sons (feat. Bret Reilly) – Too Much of a Good Thing (tempo mapped)
Nuclear Rabbit – Anything
Green Jelly – Anything
Psychostick – Anything
CKY – Disengage the Simulator (tempo mapped)
Failure – Let it Drip (expert Guitar Bass and Drums chart in the D:cool:, any other song
Nirvana – Aneurysm
Social Distortion – Ball and Chain
The Offspring – Blackball
Bush – Swallowed
Gob – Soda
Hog – The rest of their one album Nothing Sacred
Boy Hits Car – I’m a Cloud (self-titled version)
more will be posted at a later date. Please PM me if you’d like to work on any of these.
April 10, 2016 at 3:54 pm #466786Now, before you say my customs are of lower quality than everybody else’s, solely because I use EOF and not REAPER, I can guarantee that this is not true.
Just posting this for people that talk down on FoF/PS charters and EOF, and while I can’t name anyone specifically, I know they’re out there.
Just because it’s not Reaper doesn’t mean it’s bad, most of the current FoF/PS charters over at FoF make excellent quality customs, including myself and Froogs.
EOF has many features that can make songs of RB3 quality, and even has features specifically for RB3 customs.
This isn’t 2007, back when FoF customs were shit and everything was charted in feedback, they’re very good now.
Now, to stay on topic.
@Froogle, when I finally add drums to that Nothingface song, would it be alright if I post it here along with the ITM song?April 10, 2016 at 4:16 pm #466788Just posting this for people that talk down on FoF/PS charters and EOF, and while I can’t name anyone specifically, I know they’re out there.
Just because it’s not Reaper doesn’t mean it’s bad, most of the current FoF/PS charters over at FoF make excellent quality customs, including myself and Froogs.
EOF has many features that can make songs of RB3 quality, and even has features specifically for RB3 customs.
This isn’t 2007, back when FoF customs were shit and everything was charted in feedback, they’re very good now.
This. And yeah, you can go ahead and post them if you want.
April 10, 2016 at 7:06 pm #466797I for one can say Froogs charts are amazing, since I’ve converted many. ” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_biggrin.gif” />
April 10, 2016 at 7:07 pm #466798Not using Reaper is an issue in itself, there is no going around it. It’s important that any person considering of becoming an author and reading this thread understand it. However, let’s address things properly…
No one, at least no one I have ever read, implies that if you use this or that software you automatically can’t recognise a chord from a single note or a snare from a tom. The ability of a person to properly *chart* a song is not based on the software they use. There are excellent authors in this community who don’t use Reaper to chart and there are poor quality authors who only use Reaper. For what is worth I have personally said many times that authors should chart using what suits them better. If EOF provides better tools for you to transcribe a song there is no reason not to use it (unless you need time signatures different than */4, in which case EOF will produce spotty tempo maps).
However, *authoring* covers everything, from charting individual instruments to delivering a MIDI file that complies with RB3 rules. And this last part is what Reaper and the existing tools are for. Here are some things that even the average good FoF chart not worked in Reaper exhibits:
– Unquantized notes
– Improper sustains length (stubby sustains, sustains with no space before the following note, sustains with too little space, etc.)
– Improper tempo maps for songs with time signatures different than */4
Now, that’s an assessment purely based on software limitations. There are also procedure limitations, meaning that if you learned to work in Reaper you tend to properly tempo map, while if you use another software it means you don’t come from a RB3-friendly background and you’re more prone in example to tempo mapping using spikes to make the measures fit the tempo.
Again, being able to properly lay out notes does not depend on the software you use. The software you use however impacts on your ability to produce a properly compatible RB3 version, for which Reaper is essential: I don’t think I ever come across a song not gone through Reaper that properly complies with RB3 rules. Of course there are plenty of songs done in Reaper that don’t comply with the rules either, because as I said it’s not just about the software. But if you want to produce something that complies with RB3 rules fully, you need Reaper.
April 10, 2016 at 7:41 pm #466799It doesn’t matter what program you use to author. As long as you are good with your program of choice, (in my case, EOF,) you can make RB3 compatible customs without the errors that @Farottone listed above. Just look at my rb3 customs, they’re all properly tempo mapped, the notes are on grid, no stubby sustains or notes touching other notes, and they have overdrive. Personally, I don’t understand all the hostility towards EOF and FOF/PS charters, and I don’t know if I ever will.
April 10, 2016 at 7:47 pm #466800– Unquantized notes
– Improper sustains length (stubby sustains, sustains with no space before the following note, sustains with too little space, etc.)
– Improper tempo maps for songs with time signatures different than */4
I do get what you’re saying, but just for the sake of making a point, EOF can quantize notes (called “snap to grid”), fully supports all time signatures, and the sustain problem is with the charter themselves, not the program.
Songs done solely in EOF can completely comply with RB3 rules, easily. The only reason it’s commonly believed that it can’t, is because most charters that use EOF chart for FoF/PS exclusively, so they don’t add what’s needed to make it for RB3.
When in fact, EOF has full support for RB3 customs, that includes the beat track, events, etc. It even has the option to make RB3 specific files to compile in Magma.
With my last 13 customs (checked and counted), I didn’t even touch Reaper, yet people seem to enjoy them, as indicated by ratings and comments.
Of course, as you said, people should use what they’re comfortable with.
And I’m not trying to start an argument, but I’m just pointing out that EOF can make RB3 customs without Reaper.
And with that, have a nice day.
April 10, 2016 at 7:51 pm #466801It doesn’t matter what program you use to author. As long as you are good with your program of choice, (in my case, EOF,) you can make RB3 compatible customs without the errors that @Farottone listed above. Just look at my rb3 customs, they’re all properly tempo mapped, the notes are on grid, no stubby sustains or notes touching other notes
Actually, I took all those issues (unquantized notes, notes touching, stubby sustains, tempo map spke) from one of your customs. It’s not hostility, not sure why you would characterize it like that, but it’s important that people understand that you need Reaper to produce proper RB3 packages.
April 10, 2016 at 7:54 pm #466802What custom would that be?
April 10, 2016 at 8:09 pm #466807I checked Climatic Degradation.
April 10, 2016 at 8:11 pm #466808Ah, yeah, that’s one of my old customs. Try a newer one, like Let It Drip, or Eddie Vedder.
April 11, 2016 at 7:27 pm #466858Added a expert guitar only chart of “Green to Me” by Hum. I’m currently working on the drums chart.
May 6, 2017 at 5:07 am #484752Read first post for new info
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