Key/Pro Key Broken Chord question
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I’m doing my first key and pro-key chart.
The MIDI being used for the source is very solid.
However, charting to it leads to the following broken chords on Expert.
Are these OK or should I dumb them down?
The grid is set to 1/16, and yes, I know I’ve got the spacing a little tight on 2 places.
I’m more curious about held notes at the bottom of each sequence.
Thanks!
It also depends on the speed of the song. Personally to know fast I launch the song into Phase Shift. It’s not RB3, but it’s still pretty close at what you will see on RB3, and you don’t need to compile and all, just convert your final audio to ogg.
Shorten the 1/8 sustains first of all.
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I tried to be as faithful to the original MIDI as I could, but it does not translate well to gameplay.
I just did a pro and regular playthrough and this segment is a royal bitch compared to the rest of the tune.
What instrument is this representing, something like a piano with percussive notes (notes that “strike” and then fade) or something like an organ with sustained notes?
If the notes are percussive, I’d say get rid of all the sustains and don’t worry about broken chords.
If the notes are sustained, I agree with Farrotone that at the very least the 8th notes need to be pulled back. Except at very slow tempos, those usually end up with stumpy sustains. Beyond that, like anything else in charting, you have to find the balance between what is “accurate” and what is “fun”, while keeping in mind the game keyboard is not as versatile an instrument as a “real” keyboard or synthesizer. Personally I’d probably remove the sustains in all five notes that make up the first chord, leave the second chord as is, and then remove all the sustains in the third chord except perhaps the low note (G#2) and maybe the last note played (Eb3). The tempo will be a factor here as well, of course.
A synth for most of the song, then the synth goes to piano mode for outro solo.
Plus, there will be a sax solo added to the chart for keys
Yeah, I agree on the broken chords after playing this.
I’m not a piano player, just know the basics, so on ProKeys, I’m letting the MIDI guide me, however, the 3 note chords are ridiculous when trying to play with one hand. I’ll need to scale those back as well.
What is the song and the timestamp in the song?
In my opinion these types of questions should be looked at on a song-by-song basis. It really does depend on the song, which as others have said, depends on many factors like tempo, overall difficulty, and a bunch of other stuff.
Personally I’d probably remove the sustains in all five notes that make up the first chord, leave the second chord as is, and then remove all the sustains in the third chord except perhaps the low note (G#2) and maybe the last note played (Eb3). The tempo will be a factor here as well, of course.
I’m likely going to run with this, or something close to it. I played with it last night and it looked better without the sustains.
@mazegeek999, I’m keeping the title secret for now. Just me being cagey.
This is song #1 of a series of themed releases I’m working on.
The BPM is about 115.
My 2 main problems with keyboard are
- I’m trying to chart this like it’s Billy Joel or Elton, but it’s not that difficult. Gotta separate/remove the left hand parts.
- I’m still learning, as FujiSkunk put it, how to make the chart ‘fun’ vs. keeping it true to the actual notes.
I will using the advice given here, then release. If some folks have feedback on how to better chart the tricky KB parts, I’ll do a revision.
Thanks for all the help folks!
It may or may not actually have to be charted that way. When I think of broken chords, I think how “Closer” by Nine Inch Nails and how “Bully” by Shinedown handle them.
For Closer, there are parts where the sustained note doesn’t go all the way on Pro, but does on 5-lane, resulting in 4 notes being held at once. For Bully, there are parts with a sustained note and a tapped note for both charts. It’s annoying to play and it’s reduced to just sustains on Hard and lower and that’s fine too. Edpert could have been done that way. So it shouldn’t feel forced if it’s hard to justify.
Thanks Ox.
I found out at least one problem that I was causing myself.
I was trying to chart both the left and right hand parts, instead of just the right.
If I cut out the left, things get a lot more manageable.
However, at the front of the song, before the Bass kicks in, the keyboard takes care of the bass-line for about 4 measures.
I may just have those be 1/16’s there instead of holding them.
For the rest, I’ll remove the left hand stuff.
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