Help Needed – House of the Rising Sun
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I’ve been trying to chart for half a year now, and it seemed time to try a full band custom. So I picked an easy one as my first try, the Animal’s, House of the Rising Sun:
MOD EDIT: now a C3 custom
I will need quite a lot of help and feedback. Most of this is brand-new to me.
For the charts – I can play-test guitar and bass, and those seem pretty solid, but may still have minor errors.
Drums: This is my first try at drums, and I don’t have much of an ear for it. I used a drum tab, which helped, but some parts sound off to me. For instance, the song ends with a long run of notes, which sound like a muted cymbal or high-hat to me. The tab says it is alternating toms, and I charted it that way, but…? I hope someone will check it out carefully.
Keys: The organ is the real heart of the song, and is quite complex, but I have no experience charting keys, and no real way to test. I started with a MIDI, cut it down to five lanes, and changed parts that sounded off. The chart, on Reaper, sounds good to me, but seems too complex. Should it be simplified? If so, how? Again, I really need help here from experts.
Vocals: Wow. I had no idea how hard that would be. After making the chart, magma found tons of errors – frustrating. After I finally fixed the last of those errors, I decided to post this. The vocal chart is likely to be quite poor, so here, I really need suggestions.
Thanks, everyone.
Wait, if you have a MIDI of the Keys part, how come there is no Pro Keys according to the vizualiser?
So I picked an easy one as my first try, the Animal’s, House of the Rising SunI shudder to think what you think would be hard to chart. This is a monster on keys, and the drums and vocals are not a walk in the park.
There was an rb3con by cr1ckt that was pretty good – it’s on my “one of these days” lists. The pro keys was a good start but needed some cleanup. Have a look if you like:
Nightmare Lyra asked:
how come there is no Pro KeysMostly because I don’t know how! Reading through the tutorials, it looked like that needed to be cut down to 10 lanes, and, as I had never tried any of this before, I figured I’d start by cutting it down to five lanes, giving me a chart that looked familiar. If someone is willing to point me in the right direction, I’ll give it a try.
Nightmare Lyra asked:how come there is no Pro KeysMostly because I don’t know how! Reading through the tutorials, it looked like that needed to be cut down to 10 lanes, and, as I had never tried any of this before, I figured I’d start by cutting it down to five lanes, giving me a chart that looked familiar. If someone is willing to point me in the right direction, I’ll give it a try.
Pro Keys is what was actually played, primarily with the right hand, squished down to fit on what RB3 can display on the screen at once. This sometimes means that chords must be inverted, reduced (lopping off pinky or thumb notes), or that notes must be shifted an octave.
I wouldn’t cut your teeth on a 4-dot song like this one. I mean, just look at the guy:
I had this song to do on my queue so I might be able to offer my full assistance on pro-keys, but just pro, not 5-lane.
I can’t promise you anything immediate because I work on average 50 hours a week, but let me know.
Vx wrote:
I might be able to offer my full assistance on pro-keysThat would be wonderful. I have been working on keys, and now have a version with a pro-key chart, but no way to check its quality. I played through the cr1ckt version, but the keys seem off to me. Unfortunately, I could only play it through as “keys on guitar”. My 5-lane chart seems more accurate.
I will send you contact information, and follow up with the files. Thanks again.
I played through the cr1ckt version, but the keys seem off to me. Unfortunately, I could only play it through as “keys on guitar”. My 5-lane chart seems more accurate.Ideally you’d finish pro keys first, and work on 5-lane as a reduction from that.
Nyxyxylyth wrote:
Ideally you’d finish pro keys first, and work on 5-lane as a reduction from that.That makes sense. Here, I took the MIDI, edited it down so it fit into five lanes, and cut-and-pasted it into a template. That resulted in a 5-lane chart that looked like a guitar chart, and so was familiar. Then I edited that. In several places, the MIDI and the audio didn’t jibe, and I changed the 5-lane.
Once I tried to do Pro-keys, I took the same approach, editing down the MIDI to fit, and sometimes moving notes up or down an octave. Then I compared the two charts, correcting the 5-lane where that seemed off, and correcting the pro-key chart where the MIDI seemed off.
Anyway, I have a link above to the new rbcon, which now includes a first draft at pro-keys.
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