Tool Pack – “Intolerance” Tempo Issue
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Hi there everyone! First off I just want to say how awesome each and everyone of you are. Seriously, it is quite unfathomable. Pat yourselves on the back, like a bajillion times each! Go on. I’ll be waiting.
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I can’t believe you did all bajillion! Kudos.
Sorry, now on to my actual issue! I have recently gotten into the customs scene and am reading on all of the information (very well put together info, I might add). And have started working on my first pack! I am almost completely done with “Stinkfist” (Full band, all difficulties) and will admit that I barely survived tempo mapping due to Tool’s tendency to be nuts with time signatures. I have no musical theory background at all I’m afraid, but was able to pick up on signature changes during “Stinkfist” and I feel that I did a pretty good job with it (I will be posting soon to get feedback, as I am 1000% open to any criticism.) Now I know Tool is a crazy band in that regard and I was just wondering if anyone would be willing to tempo map “Intolerance”? I want to say that the beginning is in 13/16, but I have no flippin’ clue. And have tried throwing many variations at it, all to no avail. I thought “Jambi” would be harder to tempo map, but that is going well so far. I will certainly give credit where it’s due and I will take care of the rest if someone would be willing to provide a map. Thank you for at least reading this!
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Songsterr is really good for time signatures usually, though I can’t vouch for this song because I don’t know it.
Thank you for the link Farottone! You know, I had used Songsterr to help determine some tough notes to hear on drums in Stinkfist and I guess I never thought to check it for time signatures!
I am going to give 4/4 a quick try and it that works, “Keep It Simple Stupid” will have never had as much meaning to me as it would right then!
Thank you for the link Farottone! You know, I had used Songsterr to help determine some tough notes to hear on drums in Stinkfist and I guess I never thought to check it for time signatures!I am going to give 4/4 a quick try and it that works, “Keep It Simple Stupid” will have never had as much meaning to me as it would right then!
Our PDF tutorial gives good pointers on how to use Songsterr to lay out the basic tempo map.
” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif”>How could I be so foolish and not see this beautiful (and quite colorful) PDF! I know it was just released last week but still, no excuses! Very well put together, and I promise this is my last question for quite awhile! I was somewhat privy to this, but it is nice to have it verified – In section A.9 on page 41, it is mentioned to “check if a measure in Reaper has a drastically different tempo than the previous one even though the song doesn’t seem to have changed tempo that much.” I just want to ask about the parameters regarding that change. What defines as drastic? I’m assuming like a 7+ BPM change? I did get 4/4 and 5/4 alternating to work in my map (upbeat and downbeat wise, I think), but the tempo transitions from 97.xx to 116.xx each time and I feel that that would fall under a “drastic” change and indicates a more complex alternation. Thanks again everyone, I promise I’ll get this!
(Saying it again, love the PDF!)
I just want to ask about the parameters regarding that change. What defines as drastic? I’m assuming like a 7+ BPM change? I did get 4/4 and 5/4 alternating to work in my map (upbeat and downbeat wise, I think), but the tempo transitions from 97.xx to 116.xx each time and I feel that that would fall under a “drastic” change and indicates a more complex alternation.It kinda sounds like it is, yes. A 7 BPM change is not THAT drastic if it’s occasional but a 20 BPM is, even more so when it’s repeated. Drop the 116 BPM marker and see how the peaks align first.
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