Vocal authoring, help!

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    Hi! My first custom is almost done, but Magma tells me that no vocal overdrive markers are present, although I placed overdrive markers in my project.

    1) Why this happens?

    2) Since I’m using the RBN2 Template, what is Range Shift and Vocal Shift? How work Displayed/Non-Displayed Percussions markers?

    Thanks in advance!

    #424541
    Farottone
    Keymaster
      Hi! My first custom is almost done, but Magma tells me that no vocal overdrive markers are present, although I placed overdrive markers in my project.

      1) Why this happens?

       

      Because you haven’t placed the overdriver markers in your project, check again your PART VOCALS track.

      #437094

      I’m currently having the same issue of Magma error “no VOCAL overdrive markers were detected. Are you sure you want to compile without?”

       

      Not sure what I did different this time, but there are 5 overdrive markers in PART VOCALS matching exactly the size of the phrase markers below them.

      #437099
      Farottone
      Keymaster

        Post the MIDI.

        #437100
        TrojanNemo
        Participant

          If you’re wondering about things like that, throwing the MIDI at Song Analyzer in C3 CON Tools will list a lot of information, including how many overdrive markers there are. If it doesn’t see them, and Magma doesn’t see them, they’re not there <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif” />

          If it sees them and Magma doesn’t see them, then there’s an interesting situation to look into.

          #437106
          Dash Riprock
          Participant
            If you’re wondering about things like that, throwing the MIDI at Song Analyzer in C3 CON Tools will list a lot of information, including how many overdrive markers there are. If it doesn’t see them, and Magma doesn’t see them, they’re not there <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_wink.gif” />

            If it sees them and Magma doesn’t see them, then there’s an interesting situation to look into.

             

            You may be interested in this then…

             

            I decided to add vocals to clumy-plumsy’s custom of California. But when I try to compile, Magma pukes.

             

            Magma: C3 Roks Edition v3.2.7
            =============================
            Build started at 2:45 PM
            Starting Nemo's MIDI Validator...
            Everything looks good, continuing...
            Loading MagmaCompilerC3.exe...
            Nemo's MIDI AutoGen process started
            Added drum mix events successfully.
            Generated fake pro keys tracks successfully
            Generated keys animation track successfully
            Exported modified MIDI file successfully. All done.
            Nemo's MIDI AutoGen process completed
            Reading the archive
            Project Compiler: Reading project 'D:C3CustomsPhantomPlanetCalifornia.rbproj'...
            Project Compiler: Entering Phase 1 of 5...
            Metadata Compiler: Starting...
            Metadata Compiler: Done.
            Project Compiler: Entering Phase 2 of 5...
            MIDI Compiler: Starting...
            ERROR: MIDI Compiler: PART KEYS: Empty track found
            ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART KEYS): Overdrive phrase at [5] has no gems in expert difficulty
            ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART KEYS): Overdrive phrase at [38] has no gems in expert difficulty
            ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART KEYS): Overdrive phrase at [60] has no gems in expert difficulty
            MIDI Compiler: Done.
            ERROR: Project Compiler: Midi compiler failed.

             

            Here’s my project.

             

            Here’s an analysis of the MIDI.

             

            Beginning song analysis...

            MIDI File Name: ..................... California.mid

            Has Keys?: .......................... Yes
            - Expert Notes: ..................... 167 (51.8 NPM)
            - Hard Notes: ....................... 118 (36.6 NPM)
            - Medium Notes: ..................... 104 (32.2 NPM)
            - Easy Notes: ....................... 33 (10.2 NPM)
            - Overdrive Markers: ................ 3
            - Trills: ........................... 0
            - Solos: ............................ 0

            Has Pro Keys?: ...................... No

            Has Keys Right Hand Animations?: .... No
            Has Keys Left Hand Animations?: ..... No

            Analysis complete

             

            Before Magma pukes…

             

            Welcome to MIDI Tester 1.1
            This program is intended to quickly let you test MIDI after MIDI for compliance with RBN2.0 standards.

            All you have to do is drag the MIDI file(s) here. This program will read through it, and create an adequate test project. MagmaCompiler is then called to process the MIDI for RBN2.0 compliance without actually compiling the song (so no time wasted compiling the audio).

            You can do back-to-back MIDIs without having to close this form.

            Ready to begin....

            Found PART DRUMS...
            Found PART BASS...
            Found PART GUITAR...
            Found PART VOCALS...
            Found HARM1...
            Found HARM2...
            Found PART KEYS...
            Nemo's MIDI AutoGen process started
            Added drum mix events successfully.
            Nemo's MIDI AutoGen process completed
            Starting Basic EMH Check
            MIDI passed Basic EMH Check without reporting any problems
            This means the charts most likely have reductions charted
            Ready to send files to MagmaCompiler ... hold on.
            Output from MagmaCompiler follows:
            Reading the archive
            Cannot find file: C:Program Files (x86)MagmaC3testtest.rbproj
            MagmaCompiler reported some errors. Please see the log for details on what must be fixed.
            Process completed in 0 minutes and 0 seconds.
            You may drag another MIDI or just click Close to exit.

             

            …and after…

             

            Welcome to MIDI Tester 1.1
            This program is intended to quickly let you test MIDI after MIDI for compliance with RBN2.0 standards.

            All you have to do is drag the MIDI file(s) here. This program will read through it, and create an adequate test project. MagmaCompiler is then called to process the MIDI for RBN2.0 compliance without actually compiling the song (so no time wasted compiling the audio).

            You can do back-to-back MIDIs without having to close this form.

            Ready to begin....

            Found PART DRUMS...
            Found PART BASS...
            Found PART GUITAR...
            Found PART VOCALS...
            Found HARM1...
            Found HARM2...
            Found PART KEYS...
            Found PART REAL_KEYS_X...
            Found PART REAL_KEYS_H...
            Found PART REAL_KEYS_M...
            Found PART REAL_KEYS_E...
            Found PART KEYS_ANIM_RH...
            Found errors in the MIDI file:
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [3] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [3] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [3] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [3] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [3] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [3] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [3] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [3] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [4] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [4] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [4] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [4] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 67 at [4] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 67 at [4] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [4] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [4] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 67 at [6] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 67 at [7] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [37] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [37] is not allowed
            PART KEYS: MIDI note 65 at [37] is not allowed

            There are 138 other errors that I'm not displaying...
            Nemo's MIDI AutoGen process started
            Added drum mix events successfully.
            Nemo's MIDI AutoGen process completed
            Starting Basic EMH Check
            WARNING: PART KEYS Hard has the same amount or more notes than Expert
            WARNING: PART KEYS Easy has the same amount or more notes than Medium
            WARNING: PART REAL_KEYS_H has the same amount or more notes than Expert
            WARNING: PART REAL_KEYS_M has the same amount or more notes than Hard
            WARNING: PART REAL_KEYS_E has the same amount or more notes than Medium
            MIDI failed Basic EMH Check. This means the charts are most likely expert only
            Refer to the log to see which chart(s) reported problems
            Ready to send files to MagmaCompiler ... hold on.
            Output from MagmaCompiler follows:
            Reading the archive
            Cannot find file: C:Program Files (x86)MagmaC3testtest.rbproj
            MagmaCompiler reported some errors. Please see the log for details on what must be fixed.
            Process completed in 0 minutes and 0 seconds.
            You may drag another MIDI or just click Close to exit.

             

            Been chasing this error all day. It’s driving me batty. :what:

             

            edit: I fixed it too, but I had to use v3.2.5 to do so. It then compiled without changes.

            #437112

            Fixed it, thanks. Like to say what I did but I have no idea.

            #437130
            TrojanNemo
            Participant

              Before Magma pukes…

               


              Reading the archive
              Cannot find file: C:Program Files (x86)MagmaC3testtest.rbproj

               

              DOWNLOAD & INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS

              Unless you’re coming from a really old version of Magma: C3, you should extract these files over your existing installation so no settings or important files are lost. DO NOT INSTALL IN PROGRAM FILES.

               

              So that answers your “Magma pukes” problem. Follow instructions.

               

              Been chasing this error all day. It’s driving me batty. :what:

               

              Post the project and audio files in the Magma thread so I can try to replicate it on my end. I don’t get the errors when just playing with the RPP you posted.

               

              edit: I fixed it too, but I had to use v3.2.5 to do so. It then compiled without changes.

               

              We can’t make progress forward and improve the tools if you guys (and not just you, but I see it happen too often) revert back for any little problem. There’s about 30,000 lines of code to make Magma: C3 run. You gotta give me more than “it broke” or “here’s a shitload of what I think is helpful information but a couple hours later I’m giving up” if you want me to be able to fix things.

               

              Let’s keep it going on the Magma thread.

              #437137

              Hey there Nemo,

              I also got the no keys part and no keys overdrive error when attempting to compile a song. It looked just like his except the spots for overdrive were different, of course.

              #437138
              TrojanNemo
              Participant

                And this is also another song with keys but no pro keys?

                #437139
                And this is also another song with keys but no pro keys?

                Yes it was. Sorry I didn’t mention it. D’oh.

                #437140
                TrojanNemo
                Participant

                  Ok. Post or PM project files. Maybe with the new midi loading changes it’s failing to generate the pro keys chart.

                  #488543

                  Same here the vocals are charted and when I put it into the analyzer it says NO vocals!!! no overdrive either!

                  #488545

                  Nvm it was muted

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