VOCAL ERROR: Confused by vocal phrase overlap

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  • #397530
    JohnSmith2007
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    Magma: C3 Roks Edition v3.3.3
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    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:3:120]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:3:360]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:4:120]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:4:360]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:5:120]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:5:360]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:6:120]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:6:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:8:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:10:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:2:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:4:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:6:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Misaligned lyric at [19:8:240] (expected at [19:8:239])
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [19:8:240]
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing vocal note at [1:1:000] for lyric ”
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [1:1:000]
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Misaligned note at [21:1:000] (expected at [20:10:479])
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [21:1:000]
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal note at [1:7:000] is outside any phrases
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal note at [7:5:000] is outside any phrases
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal notes past end of last phrase are being discarded

     

     

    Can’t Magma be useful for once and not throw a bunch of shit at me that isn’t true?!

    How do I get Magma to shut the hell up and just export the song like it should be doing?!

    #509670
    JohnSmith2007
    Participant

    Magma: C3 Roks Edition v3.3.3
    =============================
    Build started at 4:45 PM
    Bypassing Nemo’s MIDI Validator based on your settings.
    You can enable the MIDI Validator under Options -> ADVANCED SETTINGS
    Nemo’s MIDI AutoGen process started.
    Added drum mix events successfully.
    Generated fake pro keys tracks successfully.
    Generated keys animation track successfully.
    Exported modified MIDI file successfully. All done.
    Nemo’s MIDI AutoGen process completed.
    Loading MagmaCompilerC3.exe…
    Reading the archive
    Project Compiler: Reading project ‘C:UserssmccoMusicCustoms i’ve madeRon Wasserman – Power Rangers SPD (v.2.0) – Copy_projectmagma.rbproj’…
    Project Compiler: Entering Phase 1 of 5…
    Metadata Compiler: Starting…
    Metadata Compiler: Done.
    Project Compiler: Entering Phase 2 of 5…
    MIDI Compiler: Starting…
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:3:120]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:3:360]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:4:120]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:4:360]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:5:120]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:5:360]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:6:120]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:6:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:8:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:10:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:2:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:4:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:6:300]
    This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Misaligned lyric at [19:8:240] (expected at [19:8:239])
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [19:8:240]
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing vocal note at [1:1:000] for lyric ”
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [1:1:000]
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Misaligned note at [21:1:000] (expected at [20:10:479])
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [21:1:000]
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal note at [1:7:000] is outside any phrases
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal note at [7:5:000] is outside any phrases
    ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal notes past end of last phrase are being discarded

    Can’t Magma be useful for once and not throw a bunch of shit at me that isn’t true?!
    How do I get Magma to shut the hell up and just export the song like it should be doing?!

    #509671
    Farottone
    Keymaster

    You probably have overlapping notes in PART VOCALS or a very short phrase marker somewhere. You need to fix that, the error is there, just not at the measures Magma is telling you.

    #509672
    Atruejedi
    Participant

    Magma isn’t going to compile something that is going to break your game. I understand your frustrations, but don’t blame Magma. Magma is trying to help you! <img decoding=” src=”/wp-content/uploads/invision_emoticons/default_SA_smile.gif” />

     

    Do you import your lyrics to directly attach them to your vocal tubes? If not, learn how to do that below (which I totally stole from elsewhere on the forums to send to bkloppenburg but right now I can’t find the source to credit):

     

    1. Make sure you have the Rock Band Network plugins installed for Reaper, then open the actions menu (on toolbar at top of window, select Actions > Show action list).

    2. On the top right of the action list window there’s a drop-down called “section”. From this, select “Midi Event List Editor”.

    3. Search “Import lyrics for selected notes from file”.

    4. Create a shortcut to the action so you don’t have to do this process every time! I think that default shortcut is SHIFT+L.

     

    After that, I would delete all of your phrase markers and draw the tubes from scratch.

    #509674
    rubydanger
    Participant

    It can be tricky when first using Magma, I know some vocal pros will be reaching out to help you. Just hang in there and don’t give up. I had a hell of a time with Reaper and Magma at first, but now I am actually to a point where I feel I can help others.

    #509677
    EchoOfMystery
    Participant

    …export the song like it should be doing?!

     

    If you fix those errors, it sure will. Here are some possible solutions:

     

    “Confused by vocal phrase overlap around X” probably means your phrase marker tubes are blending into each other. Try zooming in to see it clearly or rechart the markers.

     

    Misaligned lyric at X (expected at X)”: your lyric events are not aligned with the note tubes. If moving them doesn’t work (zoom in), delete it and insert it again.

     

    Vocal note at X is outside any phrases”: There are no phrase markers above the vocal note tubes.

     

    “Vocal notes past end of last phrase are being discarded”: Adjust the phrase marker all the way to the last vocal note.

    #509680
    Alternity
    Participant

    Zooming in is kind of time consuming. You can see the MIDI event table with alt+3 and you’ll see the exact location of every events. You can also open the properties of an event and see/edit the exact location.

    #509682
    JohnSmith2007
    Participant

    Thats the thing though, Atruejedi. I already have the RBN plugin installed, and have tried that command. It didn’t do jack shit.

     

    also, I can’t wrap my head around this, so I might as well just give y’all the files to see for yourself.

     

    http://www.mediafire.com/folder/qtdsu8wm6qmij/Project_Files

    #509683
    JohnSmith2007
    Participant

    Here’s the issue though, EchoOfMystery. I’ve looked through the track countless times to see I anything is out of place, but everything is in order.

     

    see it for yourself.

     

    http://www.mediafire.com/folder/qtdsu8wm6qmij/Project_Files

    #509684
    Alternity
    Participant

    Okay so just at first glance:

    The “PART VOCALS” event is set as a Lyric, but it should be set as a Track Name.

    Alot of vocal notes aren’t in phrases.

    I’m not going to compile it to see what else there is, but those are game breaking issues and easily fixable.

     

    The first issue, simply change the event type to “Track Name”.

     

    Second issue, simply place vocal phrase markers for all the notes that are outside phrases.

    #509686
    Atruejedi
    Participant

    Thats the thing though, Atruejedi. I already have the RBN plugin installed, and have tried that command. It didn’t do jack shit.

     

    Did you bind the command to a key? It won’t do anything “naturally” unless you bind SHIFT+L to be the key combo that imports lyrics. And you have to have your vocal tubes selected, of course.

    #509688
    rubydanger
    Participant

    Well like Alternity said, there basically are only 6 phrase markers with the exception of whatever is going on in the very beginning. Think of a phrase marker as marking an entire sentence, or phrase. Something like this

     

     

    And every lyric MUST be in a phrase marker

    #509689
    rubydanger
    Participant

    And the tracks are not the default template tracks so you cannot even load the color maps. It appears as though you cut and pasted new tracks in and deleted the template tracks.

     

    And actually, I believe if you use the template and the track included in the template, you don’t need to bind the command, but if you use your own track, the Shift-L will not work.

    #509691
    JohnSmith2007
    Participant

    ok, Thank you for the visual explanation. Now, is there a way to change the event type to “Track Name” without having to select each event individually to change it, and what row do you use for spoken words?

    #509692
    EchoOfMystery
    Participant

    You can see the MIDI event table with alt+3 and you’ll see the exact location of every events.

     

    There’s always something to be learned. Thanks.

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