Pro Guitar Upgrades
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Guns N Roses – Don’t Cry 6-20-13 188 KB
Expert for 17 & 22 frets charted, Slash on Guitar, Izzy on Bass
Guns N Roses – November Rain 6-20-13 172 KB
Expert for 17 & 22 frets charted, Slash on Guitar, Izzy on Bass
Metallica – Enter Sandman 6-20-13 192 KB
Expert for 17 & 22 frets charted, Kirk on Guitar, James on Bass
I’m thinking about creating pro guitar upgrades to the weekly packs. My first one is a test, Guns N’ Roses – “Don’t Cry (Original)†I only did the expert difficulties for Slash on guitar and Izzy Stradlin on the bass track. I’ll continue if its good. If someone else wants to work on the difficulty reductions, I will start on the next song and when can get these all hammered out quick. If not I have no problem reducing them myself.
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6-16-13 Initial upload of Don’t Cry
I now see some impossible 5-19 chords and such I need to fix. lol
6-17-13 Fixed the impossible chords in Don’t Cry
Initial upload of November Rain
6-18-13 Added arpeggios to Don’t Cry
6-19-13 Initial upload of Metallica – Enter Sandman
6-20-13 Added 17 fret chart to Don’t Cry. Did not require any reducing!
Added 17 fret chart to November Rain.
Changed notes to HOPO or to mutes for the 22 fret tracks in Enter Sandman.
If anyone whats to copy the files to add/change them, go for it. You need no permission from me. Do anything you want to them. The more music the better!
http://www.sendspace.com/file/n1hb6lAnother question is, What do you prefer (concerning Pro) Rhythm on the bass track or Bass on the bass track? I can also put the Rhythm on the bass expert and Bass on the bass hard track or any other combination.
I don’t think that should even be a question. you should follow what was charted in the CON. if bass has bass guitar, pro bass needs to match. if bass has rhythm guitar, pro bass has to match as well. point is you should not be considering having Pro Bass with a chart that doesn’t correspond to what is in Bass….whatever that may be.
I agree with TN. Just chart what’s in the CON. Please try to keep the pro charts consistent with 5-button. Sometimes you’ll find that there will vary slightly note-wise for a number of different reasons because as the name implies, 5-button is extremely limited. When that happens, get in touch with the author to get their opinion on what should be authored.
How selfish of me. I never considered just going by what the author chose to chart the PART BASS as. Charting the difficulties to match will will make reductions a breeze.
How selfish of me. I never considered just going by what the author chose to chart the PART BASS as.It’s no really that, it’s that the player will expect to play bass, not rhythm guitar, if the song has the bass part and it’s not a rhythm version.
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Ah, But I really like using this as a “Make my own Guitar Lesson” learning as close to what they play in the recording as possible. I’m really glad I am able to talk about this, I thought it was going to be a simple yes or no answer. I believe jumping back and forth between two different Guitarist feels like it’s not the whole song. I respect the quality everyone’s charting is at here. So, I hate to be the one to brake the norm 
Well you can certainly do whatever you want. But it won’t be released through C3 unless it conforms as above.
I totally understand, I was thinking these wasn’t allowed any where on here.
In other news…
Added arpeggios to Don’t Cry to make it easier for me to sight read. Of course RB hides the numbers on the first note of the arpeggio. So I only used it at places where the notes in chord are played in sequence, not broken up. I used ghost notes for those. I cant believe it took me all day to add all of those. Some how I really screwed up the chord names that come down on the LH side. Will spend a little bit of time on it tomorrow, If I can’t fix it I’m moving on.
PS I know the whole chart is HOPO. The game must do that because of the button guitar.
I came across Enter Sandman Pro Upgrade over on columbo777 spreadsheet. I was so excited, always wanted to learn that song. However I quickly found out it was charted into 15 frets. So I spent today charting the 22 fret tracks. Its going to be hard to chart another song tomorrow when I want to learn this song!
Kirk is playing his solos on the Guitar track, James’s rhythm melody is on the Bass track.
That second to last little lead guitar solo is missing. I never heard one there before
PG and I dont see eye to eye on this and somehow I dont have a say in the matter for C3. So If you wanted released through C3, then you have to do 5 button mapping on notes.
There are times where it wont make sense. In those cases, follow your conscious.
Yes, that is the kind of thinking I like to see!!!
Added arpeggios to Don’t Cry to make it easier for me to sight read. Of course RB hides the numbers on the first note of the arpeggio. So I only used it at places where the notes in chord are played in sequence, not broken up. I used ghost notes for those. I cant believe it took me all day to add all of those. Some how I really screwed up the chord names that come down on the LH side. Will spend a little bit of time on it tomorrow, If I can’t fix it I’m moving on.
PS I know the whole chart is HOPO. The game must do that because of the button guitar.
PG and I dont see eye to eye on this and somehow I dont have a say in the matter for C3. So If you wanted released through C3, then you have to do 5 button mapping on notes.There are times where it wont make sense. In those cases, follow your conscious.
let’s not confuse the issue here. I don’t know anything about pro guitar, so I have not opined on whether the charting for pro has to match the charting for 5-button exactly. I would expect not.
that is not what’s at issue here. the issue is whether he could/should chart rhythm guitar to be on Pro Bass, while legacy Bass has bass charted on it, and not rhythm guitar. That is an absolute no, since it would confuse the player and makes no sense within the realm of the game.
a good example would be a song that has a piano and an organ part. if we decide to chart the piano on the 5-lane keys, you can’t go and chart the organ on the pro keys.
now, if the song is done as guitar/bass, and you absolutely are sure you have good rhythm/lead charts for pro, the proper thing would be to either approach the author, or to yourself create an alternate version of the song with rhythm and lead guitars charted in 5-lane, and then you have matching pro guitars.
On that we can 100%. Bass should always be BASS or match what instrument is on the 5 lane.
PG and I dont see eye to eye on this and somehow I dont have a say in the matter for C3. So If you wanted released through C3, then you have to do 5 button mapping on notes.There are times where it wont make sense. In those cases, follow your conscious.
let’s not confuse the issue here. I don’t know anything about pro guitar, so I have not opined on whether the charting for pro has to match the charting for 5-button exactly. I would expect not.
that is not what’s at issue here. the issue is whether he could/should chart rhythm guitar to be on Pro Bass, while legacy Bass has bass charted on it, and not rhythm guitar. That is an absolute no, since it would confuse the player and makes no sense within the realm of the game.
a good example would be a song that has a piano and an organ part. if we decide to chart the piano on the 5-lane keys, you can’t go and chart the organ on the pro keys.
now, if the song is done as guitar/bass, and you absolutely are sure you have good rhythm/lead charts for pro, the proper thing would be to either approach the author, or to yourself create an alternate version of the song with rhythm and lead guitars charted in 5-lane, and then you have matching pro guitars.
So you guys are saying you don’t want an additional guitar part authored on pro bass because it would confuse the player but you don’t mind pro guitar being different than 5-button? I don’t see the logic.
Since official HMX songs use masters, their pro versions match 5-button in terms of switching between lead and rhythm where appropriate so that when notes are missed, the correct audio stem is dropped. It’s impossible to be exactly note-for-note because as the name suggests, 5-button is very restrictive on what can be notated. Pro will always have more notes. I’m just saying that it should match 5-button in terms of switching between lead and rhythm. Some early HMX songs also have keys authored on 5-button. So in those cases I would also author those on pro guitar.
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